HCG Therapy for Increased Testosterone and Increase Fertility
My doc recently put me on 10,000 IUs a week of HCG split MWF. My wife and I are trying to have a baby, my sperm count came back normal, but my testosterone, FSH, and LH came back very low. Thus, the doc prescribed HCG monotherapy. To me, this seems to be alot of hcg. In addition, the doc did not prescribe an AI. I have a bunch of Perfect PCT (clomid, nolva, amorasin (I can never spell that), and also some Armidex 1mg (90).
I live in a state where you can't use P. Med Labs and others. What do you think would be the proper amount of an AI to use. 1mg Adex every three days enough or should it be more. Should I use the Perfect PCT? Just started a little over a week ago. Nipples are sensitive yet, no lumps, but are hard 24/7.
I'm 36, 215, about 15% body fat. Have a few cycles under the belt last one was in December- test and tbol, ran muta's Perfect PCT after and HCG on.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Update:
I just got my testosterone checked again and they are now at 856 ng/dl. Also, my sperm count has went from alright to "very good" according to my doctor. I am not sure about the exact levels of the sperm count test as I don't have a copy of that test. So, it appears that the HCG is working. I am also taking letro three times a week 2.5 mg. I have no signs of gyno or anything like that.
Update:
I have scheduled a doctor's appointment for next week to discuss this further with the fertility doc. I did speak to the office staff and they indicated that I will have blood work done in June to determine whether to add any AI or other drugs. The doctor did not want to incorporate another drug with potential sides until we run bloods after about month. I forgot to mention that for the first 5 weeks I will be taking 1 amp of FSH along with the HCG on M and F. I was told the FSH is necessary in order to ensure that all sperm are healthy (motility and morphology), and if we are going to do it we should do it right. Note, the FSH is not covered by insurance; in the States I was quoted 5 weeks worth as 1200 to 1500. I ordered from overseas with my prescription from the doc (which I took a picture of and emailed to the pharmacy) and got it for 650. I will also have a sperm analysis done again in July. The doctor's office indicated that 10,000 IUs is necessary to really kick start the pituitary to pump out the hormones and get back to healthy levels ASAP.
I will keep updating as this progresses.
ZewiAnabolX" Note, the FSH is not covered by insurance;"
than take novadex.
ZewiAnabolXClomid(U can by) -Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testis make more testosterone. However, we all know that that use AAS. However what else does study’s show on how it affects men. Clomid has been used from urologist to give men 30mg daily to increase both sperm count and motility—motility is the ability of sperm to move properly towards an egg. So this means taking Clomid daily at 30mg can for some people(cause we are all different) increase sperm count and its motility.
HCG (U can by) —Both of these are very important—However, can convert to estrogen (a small dose of an AI evr 3 day or so well keep that in check) HCG for men that have hypothalamic or pituitary malfunction, can take HCG 2 times a week for 6months to increase testis size so they are at their peak and producing test.
HMG(Doctor)--Now comes the HMG(Human menopausal Gonadotropin) this you have to ask your doctor. I have not been able to find this anywhere. HMG are natural hormones necessary for human reproduction Each vial of menotropin contains equal amounts of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH). HMG also treat infertility in men with hypo- or normagonadotropic hypogonadism and may be used in combination with hCG to stimulate spermatogenesis. (talk urologist—no I did not take HMG)
Nolvadex(U can By)- increases in the serum levels of LH, FSH, and most importantly, testosterone. And also helps block estrogen. However, it helps your body increase your sperm count because of that. In fact the bad thing about Nolvadex unlike Clomid is that it doesn’t on its own increase sperm count or their motility. However, you still needed it because it does increase your LH and FSH which we need for healthy testis.
GnRH(U can by)-- stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Again this will increase sperm count, also in some studies motility(motility is the ability of sperm to move properly towards an egg) has been seen.
Vitamin E(you can buy)--- vitamin E supplements or changing your diet to incorporate foods rich in vitamin E, like sunflower seeds, nuts, turnip greens and tomatoes, can help improve the quality of your sperm. Both in Sperm Motility and Sperm Count---400 mg of vitamin E in conjunction with 225 mcg of selenium(you can buy) in studies have shown improvements in sperm motility.
Here is what I did during to have kids. I started 30 days before trying to get my body going and getting tested(about every 15days) to see were levels were to adjust were I thought I needed too (This can be ran up to 6 months) once I knew my levels were improved, we started trying about 30 daya later we were PG. It took about 45 days to adjust my cycle but here it is.
Arimidex .25mg E3d—after 15 days I got tested and my estrogen was high so I changed it to .5mg E3d got testes 15 days later and it was good to go.
Clomid 30mg ED
Nova 20mg ED
HCG 250iu a week
Vitemin E--400 mg of vitamin E /225 mcg of selenium ED I was over the 400mg of E because of diet.
GnRH- The recommended dose.
By day 45 my sperm count was the highest it’s been and my motility, some of my guys were still on the short bus but the doctor saw a 43% increase from where I was before.
Now if your coming of a CYCLE like i was. Run your normal PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
I did that got test waited 30 days and then started the above.
Get with your Doctor and explain things to him and see what you both come up with. Your Doctor is your lifeline bloodwork will be more available more often and at a cheaper price through him. Let us know how it goes. CarlosDanger was hypothesizing on something similar, but never came to fruition when he retired from Eroids.
AnonI would suggest first that you call your doctor today (asap) as ask him why he prescribed you 10,000 iu's of HCG per week. As well as your questions about an AI and PCT. Your is going to have the best information on this subject being he is a doctor as well as he is your doctor and know one literally knows your body as good as him. So rather then let people on here speculate reasons why your doctor prescribed what he did for you. Just call him directly and ask and have him with explain everything in detail to you. Remember you can go straight to the source, so go straight to the source lol...
So please give me a call him brother and if you dont mind, if you could do a write up of why he prescribed so much HCG to you etc... It i would be informative for myself and other members.
Look forward to hearing from you soon brotha!!