posted Mon, 02/17/2014 - 16:18
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Mapping out 2nd cycle
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Hey guys my next cycle in April I'm going to be running test prop200( ethyl oleate) I plan on 100mg eod for 8 weeks. on hand I have armidex to combat estrogen while on cycle. My pct I have nolva and clomid. I run clomid 100mg for 3 days and then 50 for te rest of the 4 weeks. The nolva will be ran 20mg for 4 weeks.
Questions.
How much and how often should I administer the armidex?
Any advice for my cycle?
What to do if allergic to ethyl oleate? Will my body adapt over time?
Just give me some advice. All advice and critique welcome. That's the best way to learn.
Stats
6'1
202lbs
10-13 %bf
26 yrs old
I've ran 1 test cyp cycle on my past 500mg a week 9 weeks. It was a learning experience that's for sure.
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Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/cycling-101
The op failed last cycle.
Just started pct
Starting the above cycle in April?????
Any warning thats popping up? Red flags?
Yeah bro.. Look towards the end of the thread. Lol
Rustyhooker¤ducks out quietly¤ you've got mad skill boss. And better patience.
Nah man. Don't duck out. Dude needs to hear the right shit from the right people, rather than this bs he's been getting. He really just don't know.
He should not be starting a cycle until June but better if July.
RustyhookerAnd mastering a basic first.
RochiI would suggest sticking with a long ester once more, run it for 10-12, unless your experimenting with higher dosages to which a short ester is preferable since the sides will immediately decrease with the dosage amounts. Also, unless youre one of those guys who get bitch tits just smelling gear drop the adex, it blocks estrogen which you need to grow, instead use a receptor modulator (ie nolva) if you happen to get gino sides during cycle.
If you happen to be one of the unlucky ones(like me) who are allergic or don't tolerate EO well it's a BITCH running EO gear because it never gets easier and it keeps compounding the issue as your cycle progresses. Cutting it with gso or the like does help tho, but does not cure the issue.
10 weeks on long ester? Drop the adex and run nolva instead?
Lovely advice... Actualky, it's horrible advice
Hey bro I obviously undermined my cycle thanks for your advice. Ur helping a newb out I can appreciate that.
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you honestly want help. I'm not gonna partake in high jacking your thread
Thanks a lot for that man and I will do so.
Dossier will get you on the right track; that is all we are trying to do my friend.
RochiAt least 10 weeks as that would be a minimum for a long ester, notice his last one was what 8? 9? Why? Prolly sides from his comment 'learning experience'. So let him experiment more. Stop being a fucking prick because advice doesn't follow your bro science. And yes unless adex is absolutely needed don't fucking touch it. He's trying to gain and blocking estrogen isn't going to do him any favors in that area. Better to regulate it instead UNLESS as stated he NEEDS something stronger. But with test only at the levels he's running he shouldn't have need for anything beyond a small shot of nolva to ease a bout gyno should it present itself. Using adex is overkill. He's not cutting here or competing to where he needs to dry out which should be the only time you use aromasin or adex, UNLESS as STATED he needs something that extreme to control minor gyno.
Try reading down the thread and then on his other post. You'll see it wasn't the sides that cut it short. It was his crashed estro that he thought was bunk gear. Dude's about as green as it gets, and you come on with some bullshit about let him experiment more??? Wtf??
10 weeks for long ester... Yeah... Lovely advice! I'll run along with the "bro science" and my bloodwork. Lmao
RochiI guess when you don't have a fucking brain for yourself you stick to the scraps to try an keep your point and maintain any sort of relevance. 10 week minimum jizz twat, as WE ALL KNOW THAT CYP/ENTH should be ran for at LEAST 10 weeks. We are starting at the low end because if he doesn't like what test at these levels does for him WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE CONTINUE RUNNING IT FOR ANOTHER 5? At 10 he can make a more intelligent informed decision.
Hllwd taps his foot and waits.... >: /
Off to a great start! Not a good tone to start your residence here on eroids.
Holy Fuck someone needs to research more about the advice they give. While you are at it; research what AI's do what because clearly you have your information fkn backwards. Dos's advice was not Bro Science but clearly yours is.
RochiYou and your cronies are fucking retards. He's a beginner running a low dose test cycle. Adex is unnecessary. Will it alleviate symptoms should they arise? Yes. Will it help boost/maintain t levels by preventing aromatization? Yes. But adex can bring its own sides to the table (something tamoxifen is much better with as it is much more relatively safe and easy on the system). Lets not mention the fact we don't know where he got it or if it's dosed properly or if he won't fuck it up (the dosing and times) because he's a beginner, all of which can result in a state of deficient estrogen in the system to facilitate gains and stopping forward momentum. The logical choice would be to let his system do its thing and IF gyno issues arise then a low dose of nolva would be immediately effective rather than the possibility of adex taking a bit longer before effecting estrogen levels(or didn't you take that into account either ?) and then the possibility of the previously mentioned scenarios.
Point being adex is unnecessary for this situation.
Looking at your guys' post history I see you read books, obvious by the 'by the book' generic answers, but your pictures show you really don't know what the fuck your doing all that well either or you're just not serious with it.
How about stop down reping like a bunch of ignorant fucks and listen to the logic and reason behind things first.
Oh! Didn't get yia far in my scrolling - Goodbye!
How about you give fkn better advice to someone instead of using your own Bro science you fkn Ape. To tell him to use a godamn PCT med instead of on cycle med is the fkn dumbest shit EVER. My Cronies? Thats the fkn funniest fkn thing I heard in a while. Fire me up I love it. Ignorance is bliss and that's why you are the happiest man on the planet.
RochiLmfao.. 'Pct med' vs on cycle med... Lol there you have it. By the book rather than knowing what each compound is, does and is applicable to. I'm sure in your mind Deca is only used for bulking/mass cycles too. You-->fucking retard.
dude relax i negg u 4 abuse thats im on playstation 3 with a 50 inch half is missing i gave you some back mods will deal with
Not sure as I don't use Deca or need to. I tried it once and wasn't happy with it. I open my Books and read what would help me with my cycle knowledge and gains instead of everything I read on the internet; I'm sorry, did I just describe where you get all your information from; the internet? Piss off you fkn moron. Insult me all you want.
Don't even worry about this clown, brotha. He's his biggest fan and the only one buying into his bullshit is him. Be surprised if he makes it thru the day. Especially, if vike has that hammer of his today. Lol
RochiLol I was here at the beginning before your better half was just a jizz stain on a mattress. Know the mods. I left this place because of the increasing fucktards like yourself who think they know everything after picking up a copy of William Llewellyns Anabolics and thumbing thru it. And it's taken me a day to be reminded why I deleted my account here.
You ain't the only one that's been here and left and came back. I've been around for a minute, so don't let the new profile fool you.
As for your book: never heard of it nor have I ever read a book on anabolics. The physiology is science and come from an actual education. The rest is purely based on personal experience, which is and has always been validated thru blood work.
My reasons for being here have nothing to do with the gear. It's for misguided dudes like the OP, who don't know any better and get fed haphazard, illogical info like this garbage you're spitting.
But your last screen name def rings a bell. Reminds me of monster666
RochiYou started it with your ignorance and trying to add your voice to this when you should have kept your mouth shut. You know the basics, that's good, help those that you can. But stay out of the way of others, especially if you don't have a complete grasp of the shit you're talking about.
Internet tough guys are my favorite; whats the matter, did someone take your ball on the playground? Do you need a hug? you want another lollipop?
RochiMature.
negg abuse
negg for abuse good bye.
X2.
I think this dude had a previous account banned, Dr. Rozochi or something like that. I have a feeling this one will end up the same way.
What amazes me is why do they come back if they get banned? They are not hurting the site with their bad advice, they are hurting the ppl they give the bad advice to.
RochiWas never banned. My original name was SerpentSe7en, I had bfg change the account name to anonymous and delete it when I left.
YO....serpent7.............. talk to me brother.
I've seen your posts before you seem like a knowledgeable guy. Why did you come back? It seems as if you don't play well with others. It's a shame that this post has gone to shit will all the arguing back and forth.
RochiYea I'm sorry, Im hot today. Have little patience for people calling me out with faulty logic. Just started a Tri Tren cycle too. I came back to see how things were here, if the bureaucratic side of it got any better. Kinda missed the place, and missed a few of the people here.
Sorry OP for warring on your thread
where did you see them??? he hasnt posted bro???
I've seen posts with that name and the tag has said deleted. I'm assuming that's the account he's referring to.
it would say annonymous mate.
RochiAll my old posts from my old account are still on here, circa 2 years ago.
duznt mean u can abuse mate your not special
RochiNever insinuated that I was.
So true.
bro... you were just asking for advice on a failed cycle, to which you are currently in 2nd week of pct. now you're talking about starting another one in April??? and, you're gonna try prop for a second one?? no.. no.. no... you need to try to get the first one right before trying to advance! your first run was a complete failure, so it don't even count in my book, homie.
I can see that you've done a lil reading in the last 24h, but I can't help but notice some discrepancies in some of the facts between this post and the last one...
here you're saying:
but, on your other post, you're saying:
here, you say your stats are:
there you're saying :
I'll ask a living entity bro. Don't need to explain every change or typo in my life. Thanks for your help.
If you want help on this forum you will fkn explain everything even the typo's. Dossier is trying to help you but clearly it's not the help you wanted to hear.
if you are allergic, you don't get over it.
Edited due to new information just provided.