40yo newbie gearing up to attack the stubburn fat and break the chains
hello to all.
i am a 40yo newbie gearing up for first cycle.
Stats:
5'9" on a good day
was 300+ 3 years ago - 185 now maybe 18-20% BF
BP 110/70 at last reading 2 weeks ago
now maybe 18-20% BF but i know i still have a lot to git rid of around the mid section
because was morbidly obese have moobs still have them (and even have some fat that wraps around to my sides under my arms from the moobs) and even though lost lots of weight with diet and exercise they have not really gone away so i know i am prone to gyno.
i know diet is a must and i do watch my diet closely
goal - lose midsection and moobs and overall body fat, continue to increase muscle strength, size and tighten the muscles
workout consists of cardio and free weights and following lots of routines found on popular body building sites with some modified Cross Fit thrown in for fun.
after discussing and researching with others on the forums here, i have decided i think the best way to start is with HGH to get the BF down and then move on to AAS if i still feel i need it to break the chains.
the question is, what dosage and for how long for my first ever use of HGH.
being so prone to gyno, i was really worried about the estrogen issue and making the gyno worse. and after learning more about how a higher BF can have more estrogen, i really think i need to get the BF in check first with some HGH before moving to AAS.
all that being said in the HGH forums and the "My Guide to HGH..." it mentions possibilities of breast tissue growth and mentions taking Nolva. i have a supply of Anastrozole(Arimidex), so the question is in your opinion to protect against possible breast tissue growth, should i go with the Anastrozole or the Nolva, or start with the Anastrozole and then finish with the Nolva for my PCT?
maybe some Clomid also to increase Natty Test.
what dosage and for how long if you think i should run the Anastrozole(Arimidex) at the same time as the HGH?
what dosage and how long if you think Clomid should be added to the mix?
what dosage and for how long you think i should run the Nolva as a PCT?
what do you all think would be the best for me to start with (either just HGH or combination of things) and for how long?
i really dont want to do the "kitchen sink" method and just throw everything in me at once, but would rather learn from all of your knowledge that you can offer me and help guide me to the right decision.
any other words of wisdom you all can share with me for a first timer.
thanks in advance for help and suggestions so i can break through this wall and continue on becoming the me i should be.
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You alright Onaboat?
I haven't seen much written about Rips recently and have no personal exp. Start them and see if they're g2g. My suggestion to reevaluate at 2.5 after 2 weeks was to determine if you would need more. Wait to that point to think about adding more. Same with the Nolva...Use it IF you get gyno. If your rips are good, the GH alone will take you where you need to go. You will prob. retain water on them. That will not mean you have gyno. So be careful there. Gyno on GH is rare. Stop psyching yourself out.
As for the rest, that's just overkill. I feel you are a little to desperate to approach this rationally. Just use the GH. I looked at Clen for fat loss and decided against it. To me Thermogenic=no sleep=irritability=I kill someone. T3? I can't say anything about except, Why? You're a novice bro. This is similar to starting with multiple AAS compounds. You start with all that and who knows what's what. In 5 months, you can burn your BF just by training hard.
I recommended GH to you for a variety of other reasons that will all benefit you. So just do that and train hard. I don't know about Rips or your source. If it's GH. you will be stronger and better=you can work out with more intensity=all good things will happen.
GL
Start with the GH
Thanks.
http://www.eroids.com/reviews/hgh/riptropin - Rip
OK.. understand... was kind of thinking stay away from the T3 anyhow.
i will let you know how the GH goes
thanks for the advice.
AnonFasting cardio when u wake up ive lost 7lbs already doing that.
The reason it works is due to insulin is very very low or no. Exsistant at this point insulin inhibits lipolysis, so ur body will use lipids to use as calories and expell it has heat and atp for muscle contractions.
Control ur insulin will burn the fat
It's probably very unlikely that HGH would cause you Gyno problems. That said keep the Nolva on hand and if needed the dose for that would be 10mg per day. It might be the safest and easiest to run. I suggested Clomid BC it would do the same job and raise your Natty Test. So, more bang. I am not sure of the dose but if the Nolva suggested dose is 10, the Clomid would probably be 25mg:half a 50mg pill. Just forget the Arimidex. Wait to learn your body's response to that when you decide to run your first Test only cycle. PCT= Post Cycle Therapy. As you are not on cycle, Nolva or Clomid are not PCT. You would be using one or the other to control an unwanted side.
First worry about how you will run your HGH and Pharma or Generics. If you've got the cash and source, def. go with the pharma. It has a much lower chance of neg. sides. If you live anywhere near a place that distributes genuine Jintropins, get that. You can check it on the gen-sci webpage under suppliers. I live near Hong Kong and all is well. If not, hyges from a reliable source will do. Run 2iu a day for 4 weeks and up it to 2.5 for 2 weeks and then evaluate the effects. It should be enough to cut your BF nicely. I am at 2.5 and it is fine. I might go to 3.33 now bc i am running a Test only cycle. I don't see any reason to go higher than that.
I know you don't like needles. Get a slim pin or a bd ultrafine 30-32 G 1/2 inch and inject that Subcutaneously into your belly area. You can google how to do that and reconstitue GH as well. You Tube has some videos and there's a lot of info around here.
That should get you started Bro.
Find a reliable source on the source page. Check it against the source discussion page. Start off with 100-200iu and see if the source is good and if the product is right for you.
Thank you again for the information. after careful consideration this is what i am thinking. let me preface this by saying, knowing i will have to eventually have gyno surgery and surgery to remove excess skin that i already have from being so obese in the past and that i have about 5 moths before wedding and want to drop fat as fast as i can i was thinking something like this. maybe you or someone else can let me know if my dosages are off or suggest correct dosage.
Clen - pills 40mcg per day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off then 80mcg per day 2 weeks on 2weeks off for the duration
Rip at 2iu for 4 weeks then up to 2.5iu for 2 weeks and then 3iu and maintain at 3-3.33iu for duration
Nolva - 10 mg pills - 10mg per day if needed for the duration (or should i ramp from 10 to 20mg per day)
now, at the end of 5 months do i need to ramp down or just stop? do i continue the Nolva after the 5 months for 4 weeks or just stop when i stop the Rip?
i do have some T3 on hand, but not too sure i want to get that into the mix. i know T3 and Clen is supposed to be killer when combined, but wondering about thyroid. anyone offer more personal advice on this?
any help from anyone to make sure i dose correctly and measure my dosages correctly would be a big help.
thanks again for offering this extreme newbie advice and sharing your wisdom
(i made an edit due to addition knowledge learned from additional research)