Test, and on top of that npp, should've given you and your homeboy outstanding results and now you want to jump on to tren. Alright, that's on you, but it looks like you dudes haven't done the research on it.
Google gyno surgery pix. Yukky. A member on here had a successful surgery in forums. Near $6000 !!! But he's doing great now. thats just a Lotta money when you know simple ol test e woulda boosted 12+ lbs if he's eating right
Money talks? You fucking kidding me???????? Tren is worth 50-70 bucks tops.. How fucking greedy are you? There's no way your making enough money for it to be even worth fucking your friend over like this
My bad i was on tredmill while writing, trust me i told him everything i read here and pubmed how it fucks ur adrenals and kidney but he said fuck that. He a big guy he 30 So u feel me
Tell your friend this critter is a little different and there are other things to consider if he's still going to school. He may not able to handle the mental effects if he's not psychologically mature and grounded. He might also experience lethargy and the inability to focus and concentrate. It might be better to at the very least get the education out of the way before even going this route.
Hey snuka I don't mean to jack this thread but could you further explain please?
If you didn't know, I'm a real young guy as well (early 20's) and I use tren often. I like keeping it in my cycles and have replaced other anabolics like deca or orals because I get better gains and less sides and just stick with tren (sometimes I add boldenone).
Anyways I wanted to know more about the behavior and concentration aspects of trenbolone. DO you have any studies? Personally I have a very good control of my mind and body so I have never had behavioral issues with tren. I handle all situations well and feel I'm pretty responsible and level headed for my age. Even on a high dose of tren and test I handle situations well. I never get into fights or anything like that. I dont have road rage and I don't react negatively to most situations like I have seen some people on trenbolone act.
My concern you say is concentration and inability to focus. I'll give a little personal info on myself. I've always had adhd and difficulty staying on task my whole life. I take add meds which seem to be working. Ever since I added the meds I have seemed to leveled out, my emotions are not as frantic and erratic. I don't interrupt as much and I tend to be more on focus. I have better grades in school (I'm going to college) and maintain all B's and A's in all my classes. I plan on going to postgraduate school in about a year or 2, so attention and ability to concentrate and stay on task is extremely important to me. Is there any hard evidence that tren could impair memory or focus? I kind of have a tough time remembering which results in me needing to study much more than some other "gifted" individuals who study less than me and retain information better.
Do you think some of my friends who have better memory have it because they are just genetically different or do you think the trenbolone could be impairing my memory and concentration? Like I said I am doing well in school, but I don't want to take a steroid that could potentially impair my potential to be focused and my memory.
Sorry to hijack I was just wondering if you had any information
Hey J, first of all, if you read between the lines these warnings were intended to caution someone who wants the keys to a Ferrari but hasn't learned how to drive mom's car yet. It's obvious someone doesn't know what they're getting into...they've already started pinning and don't know what to expect and how to deal with what they might run into. And if all you want to do is lean out, do you really need AAS, much less tren, to do that and establish a solid base?
Regarding, the inability to focus and concentrate, I'm speaking in terms of the by-products from the side effects someone may run into. I believe Batman is correct...I don't think there are studies for this involving people considering the intended use of tren. I speak primarily from personal and anecdotal experience of some people I've talked to regarding cognition. Lack of sleep and high blood pressure (which can be made worse by the lack of sleep) can cause these problems as well as short term memory loss. Of course, people have ways to deal with this by being prepared and having an idea of what they're doing; e.g. adjusting ratios, dosages, regular cardio, etc.
Regarding, behavior..for whatever reason some people have a harder time controlling themselves. Maybe they're predisposed or just not mature enough but my impression is that if your prone to fly off the handle this compound will exacerbate this behavior. That's still not excuse for out of control behavior. If you're under control emotionally you'll be able to deal better with it. That's why I think from an psychological/emotional aspect, IN GENERAL, this compound is better suited for men older than 30 or possibly in their late 20s than youger men. There are always exceptions.
Anyway, I'm not a doctor, but it seems what you have been dealing with is pre-existing. Also, some people just happen to need less book study and can retain more information while you may to need to put out more effort. That's just how it goes. You may be the type of person who learns better by doing things rather than book study. Otherwise, I'm with OmNom...you've crossed the bridge already and if things seem
to be ok no need to fix if it's working.
Yeah my fault. I happened to come across your post and kind of ignored the actual post. Sorry I know I shouldn't be discussing my experience with tren because I'm one of the lucky people that doesn't experience bad sides with it. But yes it still is a VERY advanced compound and will emotionally play games with some people. I have witnessed people have uncontrollable anger with tren. It really is true.
That makes sense the high BP and lack of sleep can cause memory loss. I guess I'm lucky in that I sleep well on it. But yeah maybe I've had good luck with tren I am an exception it is not thing for young guys to play with.
I think you are right, some people are just gifted with near perfect memory and ability to retain information. You could be right about my learning style, either way thanks bro. Glad to hear it's unrelated to the tren. Though I will be paying closer attention to estrogen, which is much more of a problem when also on 19-nors
As u inow there is. No studies on humans so I doubt hell give u a study on memory impairment. But if it hasnt affected u ur lucky i guess ill jump the tren train maybe 7cycle from now
My biggest problem from focusing on tren comes from elevated blood pressure.. It's already proven stable levels of testosterone help with memory.. During PCT you will obviously have trouble with focus and emotions.. I haven't heard anything about tren effecting memory in a negative way besides that.. I could see an issue arising if your estrogen or prolactin get out of wack.. But from our previous convos I take it you have all of that in check.. The best advice I can offer you is pay close attention to these things on and off of tren.. We've already established you react differently to tren compared to most people.. If you're fine now why fix what isn't broken
Thanks for the response. I have a family history of high BP but I manage mine pretty well. Probably from all the exercising. I notice when I workout daily my BP is better, but if I only get 2 workouts a week in then I'm all over the place. I'll try to at least get 20 mins cardio daily if I don't have time to make it to the gym.
Yes estrogen does effect memory! I was using sustanon and test prop sometimes missing prop injections so that probably fucked me up. I'm sticking to strictly test cyp now, and a constant 0.25mg adex every single day along with 25mg proviron daily. That keeps my estrogen as even as can be, especially on cyp.
I'll do test only next time around and see how my memory is after 2 months. It's not bad but It's not perfect. I'm still good but I just noticed a SLIGHT impairment. Could be other factors too. (caber, prami, stress etc)
Yes tren is great for my body. I feel more balanced and normal on tren. Weird haha.
Next cycle I'm gonna do low dose test and 4-5iu HGH daily and stick with that for a while see how things go. If no difference I could hit some tren, but thanks for the advice I'll try it out. +2
I don't think he's directing it at you at all. You got a newb with just one cycle now pinnin his buddy with tren for a first cycle. It's blind leadin the blind. Lol!
You give great advice to me and others from personal use n knowledge. But tren a and test e on a newb who cant pin himself?
Np,yeah when I have my pinning and AI PERFECT on tren for at least a week or two I do feel pretty damn amazing mentally and physically.. I plan to swap over to tren E next time.. Seriously just 1-2 days of a missed pin and my mood and memory does change dramatically and then it takes an entire week for strict pinning and AI to feel awesome again lol
So you're his new gf? Sendem to this site.. first he's not going to gain anything.. tren is over hyped and trust me I love the stuff but its not magic at all.. you have to pin ed.. find your sweet spot which imo takes the entire first cycle to find.. if anything's off he won't be able to eat nearly enough to see result let alone function normal during and after his cycle.. tren shit down is a biiiiiiiitch
Doesn't mean the tren is fake.. you pinned it one time.. that's not how tren works.. personally I don't think either of you should be playing with tren.. you're still young.. it's a good way to end up on trt if you're not careful
... Dude not trying to be a dick but you sound like a horrible friend if you did this for money.. Why not enlighten him on what tren is and how it works? Like J touched on above the guy won't even pin his own quad and tren ace should be pinned every day.. This sounds like a train wreck.. Please send your friend to this website
First off you got mismatched Esters! Second, i doubt you know bout tren. Your homeboi...(homeboy if male) should be posting STATS and Priors and a member so he gets real info.
Ahhh.. the ol' "my homeboi" routine LMFAO!
Test, and on top of that npp, should've given you and your homeboy outstanding results and now you want to jump on to tren. Alright, that's on you, but it looks like you dudes haven't done the research on it.
AnonLol i knew i was gona hear that one
your friend needs your help injecting into quad??? The fuck tell him to do it himself
AnonYea he pussy bout it bro
RustyhookerBullcrap! It's dudes FIRST run and you're gonna give him tasty milky nipples.
AnonI got em some prami
Money talks
RustyhookerMoney and no knowledge of what you're doing will buy surgery
AnonShare the surgery story so i can scare em off it
RustyhookerGoogle gyno surgery pix. Yukky. A member on here had a successful surgery in forums. Near $6000 !!! But he's doing great now. thats just a Lotta money when you know simple ol test e woulda boosted 12+ lbs if he's eating right
Money talks? You fucking kidding me???????? Tren is worth 50-70 bucks tops.. How fucking greedy are you? There's no way your making enough money for it to be even worth fucking your friend over like this
AnonWere gettin off topic he could of went and buoght it online. He was hard headed on my ass about it so i got annoyed said w.e
But thanx 4 ur input
It's the way you worded it like you're trying to make money.. but any ways send his ass over here
AnonMy bad i was on tredmill while writing, trust me i told him everything i read here and pubmed how it fucks ur adrenals and kidney but he said fuck that. He a big guy he 30 So u feel me
4 cycles and he can't pin his own quads? OK
AnonYea he had his ex girl do it for him
Tell your friend this critter is a little different and there are other things to consider if he's still going to school. He may not able to handle the mental effects if he's not psychologically mature and grounded. He might also experience lethargy and the inability to focus and concentrate. It might be better to at the very least get the education out of the way before even going this route.
Hey snuka I don't mean to jack this thread but could you further explain please?
If you didn't know, I'm a real young guy as well (early 20's) and I use tren often. I like keeping it in my cycles and have replaced other anabolics like deca or orals because I get better gains and less sides and just stick with tren (sometimes I add boldenone).
Anyways I wanted to know more about the behavior and concentration aspects of trenbolone. DO you have any studies? Personally I have a very good control of my mind and body so I have never had behavioral issues with tren. I handle all situations well and feel I'm pretty responsible and level headed for my age. Even on a high dose of tren and test I handle situations well. I never get into fights or anything like that. I dont have road rage and I don't react negatively to most situations like I have seen some people on trenbolone act.
My concern you say is concentration and inability to focus. I'll give a little personal info on myself. I've always had adhd and difficulty staying on task my whole life. I take add meds which seem to be working. Ever since I added the meds I have seemed to leveled out, my emotions are not as frantic and erratic. I don't interrupt as much and I tend to be more on focus. I have better grades in school (I'm going to college) and maintain all B's and A's in all my classes. I plan on going to postgraduate school in about a year or 2, so attention and ability to concentrate and stay on task is extremely important to me. Is there any hard evidence that tren could impair memory or focus? I kind of have a tough time remembering which results in me needing to study much more than some other "gifted" individuals who study less than me and retain information better.
Do you think some of my friends who have better memory have it because they are just genetically different or do you think the trenbolone could be impairing my memory and concentration? Like I said I am doing well in school, but I don't want to take a steroid that could potentially impair my potential to be focused and my memory.
Sorry to hijack I was just wondering if you had any information
Hey J, first of all, if you read between the lines these warnings were intended to caution someone who wants the keys to a Ferrari but hasn't learned how to drive mom's car yet. It's obvious someone doesn't know what they're getting into...they've already started pinning and don't know what to expect and how to deal with what they might run into. And if all you want to do is lean out, do you really need AAS, much less tren, to do that and establish a solid base?
Regarding, the inability to focus and concentrate, I'm speaking in terms of the by-products from the side effects someone may run into. I believe Batman is correct...I don't think there are studies for this involving people considering the intended use of tren. I speak primarily from personal and anecdotal experience of some people I've talked to regarding cognition. Lack of sleep and high blood pressure (which can be made worse by the lack of sleep) can cause these problems as well as short term memory loss. Of course, people have ways to deal with this by being prepared and having an idea of what they're doing; e.g. adjusting ratios, dosages, regular cardio, etc.
Regarding, behavior..for whatever reason some people have a harder time controlling themselves. Maybe they're predisposed or just not mature enough but my impression is that if your prone to fly off the handle this compound will exacerbate this behavior. That's still not excuse for out of control behavior. If you're under control emotionally you'll be able to deal better with it. That's why I think from an psychological/emotional aspect, IN GENERAL, this compound is better suited for men older than 30 or possibly in their late 20s than youger men. There are always exceptions.
Anyway, I'm not a doctor, but it seems what you have been dealing with is pre-existing. Also, some people just happen to need less book study and can retain more information while you may to need to put out more effort. That's just how it goes. You may be the type of person who learns better by doing things rather than book study. Otherwise, I'm with OmNom...you've crossed the bridge already and if things seem
to be ok no need to fix if it's working.
Yeah my fault. I happened to come across your post and kind of ignored the actual post. Sorry I know I shouldn't be discussing my experience with tren because I'm one of the lucky people that doesn't experience bad sides with it. But yes it still is a VERY advanced compound and will emotionally play games with some people. I have witnessed people have uncontrollable anger with tren. It really is true.
That makes sense the high BP and lack of sleep can cause memory loss. I guess I'm lucky in that I sleep well on it. But yeah maybe I've had good luck with tren I am an exception it is not thing for young guys to play with.
I think you are right, some people are just gifted with near perfect memory and ability to retain information. You could be right about my learning style, either way thanks bro. Glad to hear it's unrelated to the tren. Though I will be paying closer attention to estrogen, which is much more of a problem when also on 19-nors
AnonAs u inow there is. No studies on humans so I doubt hell give u a study on memory impairment. But if it hasnt affected u ur lucky i guess ill jump the tren train maybe 7cycle from now
My biggest problem from focusing on tren comes from elevated blood pressure.. It's already proven stable levels of testosterone help with memory.. During PCT you will obviously have trouble with focus and emotions.. I haven't heard anything about tren effecting memory in a negative way besides that.. I could see an issue arising if your estrogen or prolactin get out of wack.. But from our previous convos I take it you have all of that in check.. The best advice I can offer you is pay close attention to these things on and off of tren.. We've already established you react differently to tren compared to most people.. If you're fine now why fix what isn't broken
Thanks for the response. I have a family history of high BP but I manage mine pretty well. Probably from all the exercising. I notice when I workout daily my BP is better, but if I only get 2 workouts a week in then I'm all over the place. I'll try to at least get 20 mins cardio daily if I don't have time to make it to the gym.
Yes estrogen does effect memory! I was using sustanon and test prop sometimes missing prop injections so that probably fucked me up. I'm sticking to strictly test cyp now, and a constant 0.25mg adex every single day along with 25mg proviron daily. That keeps my estrogen as even as can be, especially on cyp.
I'll do test only next time around and see how my memory is after 2 months. It's not bad but It's not perfect. I'm still good but I just noticed a SLIGHT impairment. Could be other factors too. (caber, prami, stress etc)
Yes tren is great for my body. I feel more balanced and normal on tren. Weird haha.
Next cycle I'm gonna do low dose test and 4-5iu HGH daily and stick with that for a while see how things go. If no difference I could hit some tren, but thanks for the advice I'll try it out. +2
RustyhookerI don't think he's directing it at you at all. You got a newb with just one cycle now pinnin his buddy with tren for a first cycle. It's blind leadin the blind. Lol!
You give great advice to me and others from personal use n knowledge. But tren a and test e on a newb who cant pin himself?
yeah I was specifically talking to omnom and snuka. My bad I shouldn't be talking about tren. I kind of hijacked the thread lol
RustyhookerYou're a good dude on here. We make mistakes. Typing true intentions is always difficult.
Np,yeah when I have my pinning and AI PERFECT on tren for at least a week or two I do feel pretty damn amazing mentally and physically.. I plan to swap over to tren E next time.. Seriously just 1-2 days of a missed pin and my mood and memory does change dramatically and then it takes an entire week for strict pinning and AI to feel awesome again lol
AnonI feel u man i told em everything i kno about it. Thanx for ur wisdom
So you're his new gf? Sendem to this site.. first he's not going to gain anything.. tren is over hyped and trust me I love the stuff but its not magic at all.. you have to pin ed.. find your sweet spot which imo takes the entire first cycle to find.. if anything's off he won't be able to eat nearly enough to see result let alone function normal during and after his cycle.. tren shit down is a biiiiiiiitch
LOL
Doesn't mean the tren is fake.. you pinned it one time.. that's not how tren works.. personally I don't think either of you should be playing with tren.. you're still young.. it's a good way to end up on trt if you're not careful
AnonHe hard headed he wanted gave me bread so i said fuk its ur life
... Dude not trying to be a dick but you sound like a horrible friend if you did this for money.. Why not enlighten him on what tren is and how it works? Like J touched on above the guy won't even pin his own quad and tren ace should be pinned every day.. This sounds like a train wreck.. Please send your friend to this website
RustyhookerFirst off you got mismatched Esters! Second, i doubt you know bout tren. Your homeboi...(homeboy if male) should be posting STATS and Priors and a member so he gets real info.
I get very little sides from tren.
Was this his first pin of tren?
give it a week or two see what happens.
AnonYea first pin 50mg, and have u tried this SRC tren that im talking bout they had fire everything but i never have done tren so idk