posted Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:02
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First cycle, tell me if this sounds ok.
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This is my first cycle and I have always been in great shape having competed as a pro athlete since 19 (I am now 26). I just feel like I have reached a point where I want to push myself to another level, but I want to try a cycle that is safe and that my body can recover from afterwards. Im wondering if the EQ is too high in this cycle. If I can get some solid advice or even just an experienced user to let me know if this is a good cycle plan, I would greatly appreciate that.
Equipoise- 350mg every 5 days (12 weeks)
Test Enanthate- 250mg every 5 days (14 weeks)
Anavar- 40mg/day (12 weeks)
Proviron- 25mg/day (12 weeks)
Clomid- 50mg/day starting 2 weeks after end of cycle (week 16- week 20)
HCG- 5 doses of 1,000 IUs every 5 days
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Anybody know how heavy this guy is or is current bodyfat% ??????
Will 700mg of test load him water or bring gyno on due to his high BF%.. very high for run one.. agreed!
Will there be any point in running var if high BF% is the case ????? @12wks usage WOW any liver support being used
Thanks for all the input guys. I had someone I really trust and who I believe is knowledgeable suggest this cycle, but I guess yall are right, this it too advanced for a first time user. I think I will try just test/anavar for my first cycle, so Im gona read around and do my homework on that.
I think that could be reasonable. Start the cycle with test alone and then add Anavar for like the last 6 weeks or something... That way, you will still know how you react to the testosterone long before introducing anything else into the mix. And the Var will help harden you out in the end as well. Again, I would still suggest test E or C standalone... But I do also think something like that is reasonable if you insist on running something with it. Just would not start both from day one. Gotta know how you react to each thing.
Definitely use only the test E. And run it at 500mg per week, split in two 250mg doses. And cut it to 12 weeks. That is plenty. And your PCT should be different as well. But it is not my place to lay out exactly what you should do. Just read around... Type in first cycle and proper PCT, etc... You can easily find all the shit you need.
Hey I'm new top this as well, and I strongly advise you take these other users advice. They had to do their research just like the rest of us. Normal impulse is to just copy and paste someone else cycle without even knowing what the compounds they are using effect them or even more importably, how they effect YOU. These guys had me research my stuff as well and helped me along the way. Start small and work your way up. Nothing is easy and everything takes time. Stay patient. STAY SMART!!!!
I didnt copy and paste anything, Im not going to risk fucking myself up doing something that I saw some guy post online. Someone who I trust alot and who is a high level athlete suggested this to me and he is very knowledgeable. But I get the point by everyone that this cycle maybe is too much for a first timer. I will keep doing my own research. But like I said, Im very cautious and Im not going to jump right into anything.
Thanks for the feedback everyone.
Didn't mean anything negative in my comment. Just trying to help like I've been helped.
Lil bro, this guy isn't very knowledgable or responsible if he's feeding you this cycle
I know what your saying. He was an army medic though and I know that he is very knowledgeable about many things and has also been a high level athlete for a long time. Hes not like a guy I just lift weights with a golds gym (I dont really do that kind of lifting anyway). I understand that it doesnt make him an expert... and thats why Im doing my own research before sticking any needles in my ass. But yea, like I said, I always check everything from all angles before I make a move, Im ocd about my health and I dont wana fuck it up. I compete internationally and many times with no athletic commissions testing opponents and competing against russians, brazilians, etc. who are juiced to the gills has me wanting to try the next level as well. I dont want to sound like the couch potato who is lazy and hasnt achieved anything naturally first.
Thanks for yalls feedback. Much appreciated.
But if he really has the experience and knowledge with and about these compounds, he should not be telling you you should jump on so many compounds right off the bat. My first cycle was test E alone at 500mg weekly, and I gained 17 pounds. Second was test E, same dosage, with a test P kicker... Similar results. I am just now getting ready for my first non-test-only cycle, and this will be my third. Introduce one new compound each cycle, so that you can see and know how you react to each compound. If you jump on, what was it, four?, all at once... If you have a bad reaction to one of them, you will have no idea which. No way to address the issue. You can make great gains with the testosterone alone anyway, brother. Also no sense in blowing money on so many compounds until you have reaped all you can with the lesser (and just less) compounds. If you can spend like $200 and make killer gains, why would you rather spend $400 or $500? Just be smart. Do not take a single person's advice. No matter who he is or what he does. Listen to many, many people and collect all the information you can. Do your own research, read, read, read, and read. That way you will know exactly what to do and how to do it best. Best of luck to you, bro! Stay smart... And stay safe.
^^^THIS is what I'm talkin' about!
Anoneveryone at the gym has their PHD in "steroidology"
Blow out your shoulder? fuck it, just run 1000mg of deca with 100mg of viagra every 8 hours to combat deca dick! works like a charm.
You have to learn to crawl before you run.
Darron614One compound at a time bro. Also never run an oral for 12 weeks!
Use only Test E and see how your body reacts to it. You could make great gains using only Test for multiple cycles.
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@MedDx Well put!
IMO you need to keep reserching bro, where to begin
Too many compounds
Not enough knowledge of compound doses
Not enough knowledge of compound duration
The search bar is your friend bro