posted Mon, 03/10/2014 - 00:04
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Which will be likely to cause more shutdown?
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a 10 week, test prop/npp cycle? or 16 week, test/EQ cycle?
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a 10 week, test prop/npp cycle? or 16 week, test/EQ cycle?
As others have stated below............ shutdown is a shutdown.......... and it will occur almost immediately with both cycles. I think the true question is which cycle will be harder to recover from. Nandrolones are a lot more difficult to recover from then the other compounds you mention (this has to do a lot with the fat solubility of the compound as well as how it binds to other sites in the body).
Having said this time factor also plays a crucial role in recovery, the longer you stay on the more difficult it is to recover. Since there is a six-week discrepancy between the two cycles and the shorter cycle is more difficult to recover because of the Nandrolone I would actually call it a Draw.
That's my two cents.
Makes sense to me.
X2.
Nandrolone recovery is always tougher.
Personally I believe the test/prop/npp cycle will cause a quicker shutdown. Being that the length of the ester are relatively short, therefor the body can metabolize it quicker... Both will cause a shut down, and a shut down is a shut down.. there no difference, just the time it take to occur.
Throw some stats up bro, before u ask questions. Assuming that your not 12, If I was to take a guess Npp/prop, would be "harder" shutdown. However the 16 week cycle is a longer shut down, Which would mean a harder recovery. Shut down is the same both ways, get a good pct regime and you should be gtg.
I listed stats as a response to another comment
Shut down is shut down, the question and thoughts that you should be thinking and planning is how to fully recover.
shut down is shut down depending on cycle length and esters being used, as I stated below- 10 weeks shorts vs 16weeks longs, he can finish shorts and head into pct straight away, finishing pct before the long ester cycle would even be finished.
Almost any AAS will supress HPTA.
Almost any steroid will shutdown your natural production, so then the question is what are your goals for the cycle and do you mind injecting every other day. Getting your test level back up is an easy fix, hcg, clomid or any of the other anti e's. I like the test/eq cycle myself
My goal is not so much building muscle as I compete in a weight class of 170 and Im sitting at 215 as of today. I want to increase stamina and strength. I hear EQ is best for stamina purposes so that would preferably be my choice. Like I said my whole concern is recovery from my cycles and wondering if a shorter NPP cycle is more suppressive than a longer EQ cycle.
Whats your goal? Are you planning to add eq or npp to this current cycle? Rule of thumb is for first few cycles to do testerone only to see how it reacts with your body, you will still get great gains..but that boat is sailing....make sure you have the necessary PCT items to properly come off this cycle especially if you are worried about shut down.
Yea I agree. But as Im already 26 I decided to take the risk of trying with masteron and anavar in the mix since it would be months before I try the next cycle, since I want to take a good amount of recovery time off and not rush my cycles.
As for the pct, I made sure I have every single thing I need before even starting the cycle, and I have been running hcg on cycle.
that didn't answer his question mate.
The survey says Npp/prop higher odds of shutting you down then eq/test(whatever)...eq supposedly doesn't aromatase. lol shutdown can be fixed easily though.
boom. the deca/npp will shut him down quicker, and will also be herder to recover from.
but if he runs test prop with npp, he can hit pct and recover before he even ends his test e eq cycle.
Agreed
Yea I have came to the conclusion that npp and deca shut down pretty hard from all that I have read. But I have read so much mixed stuff with some ppl saying that EQ shuts them down hard and some saying that EQ isnt as hard on the hpta
adding in more compounds on your 2nd cycle isn't a wise move, I didn't realise this was cycle advice, just thought it was a general question-
please layout your cycle, what your on, what ancillaries and pct your going to use, this doesn't sound good to me, if your already near the end of a cycle, why would you want to add more.
stats.....
5'9, 215lbs. Not sure of my bf% but it has always naturally been very low and I have always been lean. 26 years old. Have ran only one cycle that I am currently on week 7of 10 prop/masteron/anavar. Before cycle started at 188lbs, and am so far at 215. Been competing professionally overseas since 19. drug testing is not an issue since the overseas promotions I compete in have no commissions drug testing the athletes, hence why I am even considering npp or eq.
well 1ml of deca is all it takes for complete shutdown.
I agree...