+ 1 PIP with test e, need advice
Hey all,
I'm on my 2nd full week of my cycle (tomorrow evening is my 6th injection). I'm doing 500mg of Test E (300mg/ml) and 600mg of Eq (250mg/ml) split up twice a week. I am also currently on TRT so I'm taking 150/wk BioIdentical Test C. No pip with the Test C or Eq, but CRAZY redness and swelling (roughly the size of a medium sized apple cut in half) with the Test E. I tried to split my Test C into two injections and add it to the Test E just to cut it a bit; that worked for a while but now on my third injection into my glutes I have this monster welt on each ass cheek. I'm only injecting each glute once a week, I could rotate to my quads but I'm sure the reaction is going to be more severe. Currently I'm only pinning my quads with the Eq.
I do have B12 that I could cut it with instead of the Test C, do you think that would work? I'm thinking 0.75cc of B12 to .85 cc of Test E. I can handle the pain but the welts are a little tough to explain to the wife and trainer. I'm thinking I'm gonna have to go quads just to give my glutes a break for another week.
BTW, this is my third cycle, no real issues prior to this, 36 Year Old, 14% BF, 215 lbs.
Any help is appreciated. I'm already seeing good results, much more than previous cycles from a different source, so I want to keep going if possible.
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could be scar tissue bro or even sterile abcess, I fkd my delts a while back from not rotating enough, the more you use it the harder it will get, you should start at the top and work your way down like this-
right delt- left delt- right glute- left glute- right quad-left quad- so if your pinning once a week each muscle is only getting injected once every six weeks!!
don't hog a certain spot, I used to favour delts pinned each one twice a week for twelve weeks mate, fkd them bad to the point I was in bad pain for like 4-5 days.
also its a good trick to warm the oil a bit- wrap vial in tissue paper and use hair dryer on it for 20 seconds, shower before pinnin and swab before and after pinning and always put a bandaid on it straight away,you can use paracetamol or ibuprofen for minor pain, and always have antibiotics on hand just incase of infection, take your time pushing the oil into nice and slow, and don't move or bend it on way out everything should be slow and controlled, im sure you know this as its the basics, but atleast newbs can read it too. good luck bro!
Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip
Read up. Lotta info
RustyhookerDude....you need at least 6points of pinning for a cycle. Glutes, quads, delts,, intermedius etc
Google cellulitus images.....it will cure you immediately!
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Question...your using 600 + your trt doses? Why? You can get more bang for your cycle keeping it simple and unbinding free test.
RustyhookerAlso, eq almost never has pip. Blend the eq with the test and theres no need for extra oil.
Thanks for the response, and thanks for freaking me out with the cellulitis pics:) Can you elaborate on the freeing up of testosterone? I'm currently adding 500mg/week to my TRT schedule, not 600. I'm doing 600mg/wk of Eq. I can try adding the Eq to the test, maybe that will help a bit.
RustyhookerBlending 250/300 should make pip a cake walk. Eq blends nicely. You are aware eq cycle is 16Weeks minimum. Long slow cycle but gains are solid.
Freeing up test. On the forums there's colored boxes known as "stickies". There's one on proviron. Excellent starter read. You can get your regular blood test on your blast and have total test of 2000+ ! But the free test is useable by the body. So if your body has high SBGH (serum binding glibulin hormone) the test is bound and unuseable. So many guys that don't know figure tgat bigger is better. Sounds correct! But your body reacts different than we think trying to rebalance all the new hormones. Literally, you can run a mild lil cycle and add provi....bingo!
Thanks for all the info, I'll read up the proviron. I'd much rather run smaller amounts, I'm not trying to win any trophies for running the most gear. Believe it or not, I actually researched this cycle for a few months before I started, apparently I missed some stuff. I was only planning on running the Eq for 12 weeks, along with the test e for 12 weeks, and then taper off the test e in weeks 13-14 and continue on my TRT. After talking to you I'm thinking I should change that. If I run the Eq for 16 weeks, should I continue the test for a couple weeks after?
RustyhookerIt would give you more of the eq effects. Bout week 11 the hunger and endurance really boom. Yes you can taper the test at the end. If you want to finish harder looking you can taper from week 12. Test holds the water and eq makes you solid/vascular. So there's many options. If straight bulking keep test where it is and do your taper.
Mixing 0.8cc of the Test E 300 with 1.2cc of the Eq 250 solved the problem. Pinned my quad on Sunday and I had almost no pip, hopefully this is behind me because I was getting crippled. Thanks for all the help.
RustyhookerAwesome! Hope that ya blow up nicely!
I've been having the same problem the last couple months. Quads are worse than glutes. I ordered some ethyl oleate, got it in the mail and cut my test e 300 just for a trial I only used .3 test/.2 eo - wanted to make sure I wouldn't have a reaction to the eo. Eo is not for everyone, some people have allergic reaction. It's been 24 hours now and no swelling and minimal pain compared to what I was dealing with before. I'll check back in and let you know how it goes. (Eo cost me like 12 bucks for 20/ml and it's usp grade in vial ready to go) hope this helps!
Please do, I'd like to know how it works out
I think we're gtg the minor pip that I did get is fading already (thank god, I barely remember how to walk properly lol) so I pinned .75 test/.65 eo in my glute when I got home from work. I'll let you know how it goes. I got the eo on eBay from seller big nutrition (I straight up told him what I wanted it for, to make sure I wouldn't have to filter it first) so far so good. I sent you a friend request I have a question for you I'd rather not ask here.
go to a doctor, could be infected.
is the test E the same brand as the others?
Yes it is the same brand as the Eq. I don't think it's an infection, the other side did the same thing but calmed down after about a week. I think maybe once a week is too often to inject this stuff?
Are you rotating sites?
Yeah, I'm going back and forth between left and right glutes, they each get one pin per week. This was my third injection in my right glute. I got a little soreness/swelling after the first, a bit more after the second, and the third one blew up. I was thinking about incorporating my quads, that way each muscle will only get pinned once every 2 weeks. Probably gonna be sore anyway but at least I can minimize the damage:)
Yeah bro hit those quads also hit the delts. Both are easier for me than glutes. 6 points of injections that way they get time to heal up.