posted Tue, 09/03/2013 - 18:32
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why are we going to war with syria
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Anyone can give me a good reason other then that they have chemical weapons. Let's face it Iraq used chemical weapons on Iran in the 80s.. And we didn't do shit
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Mike1982Go look up Eisenhowers final speech as president. He basocally says beware of the United States military industrial complex. We sat back during WW2 and let Russia and Germany have it out and we let Germany get to England's doorstep before we even helped. And if you do some research you will learn about why England is our bitch to this day, and I don't mean that in a good way. This country waited until hitter was knocking on the door of Big Ben and before we agreed to help we made England give us everything. All of their secrets. The feasibility of the atomic bomb and most importantly a working Megatron 12, which closed the mid Atlantic gap and took away the advantage of the German u boats which were sinking our ships by literally no shit, the thousands. Why do you think we engaged the German front first and not the Japanese front which allowed the Japanese to expand their territorial reach, which inevitably led to us having no choice but to drop to atomic bombs. We had to make sure England did not fall or we wouldn't have been able to sustain either front. What people don't understand is the reason more than any that the US is so powerful today is about 75% luck. We couldn't fight a war on two fronts no fuckin way. Russia has already lost almost ten million before we even entered the war. We played our position and got lucky. But as soon as the u boats became the hunted and not the hunters that front changed forever. That was the biggest turn besides the Battle of Britain. Where Japan fucked up was when they attacked Pearl Harbor they made two very vital mistakes. They failed to bomb our oil tanks which would've absolutely crippled the pacific fleet and rendered them completely useless and they failed to touch one aircraft carrier which none were in Pearl Harbor that day. That was another major advantage we had. Then during a dual run bombing mission on the Japanese fleet out first wave was completely destroyed but what Japan didn't know was we had a second wave coming and they let their guard down and because of that we sunk all four of their aircraft carriers and they only had one more under construction and we had four. So that one would not be enough to replace and there was absolutely no time to build another one. So now the Japanese front became a ground war as they had no ability to fight on water. Which led us to dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We were not going to risk the two million estimated casualties when we had this new bomb. At this time we had already taken Berlin. There's so much more to this story but it all breaks down to this. THIS IS WHY ISRAEL WILL ALWAYS STRIKE FIRST. THEY WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THE HOLOCAUST AND WILL FOREVER STRIKE FIRST AND THE US KNOWS THIS THEREFORE...... We fast forward 70 years to today. Now do y'all see why Iran is the target now? If that reactor in Iran EVER goes online Israel will strike it first before that uranium and or plutonium is weaponized, then the attack on the reactor at Pyongyang in North Korea would have been for nothing. So if the US can put the noose around Irans neck then we will have the control and Israel will be forced to stand down. THE US WILL NOT START WORLD WAR 3. Israel will if it comes to that not saying I agree but in order for ww3 to potentially be avoided we need Syria. It's just how the cards fell and it all goes back to ww2. All this history ties into each other somewhere somehow. There are so many more details that I just can't fit in right now so please excuse me for that.
I apologize for misspellings and such I was trying to recall and type at the same time.
ah so much truth. you should enjoy this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2u-zUephyc
Wesley Clark tells how 10 days after 9/11 he learned from people inside the pentagon of plans to attack 7 countries in the middle east. Syria was on the list. I believe him, the man has integrity.
Seems like the industrial complex to me. Also is being used as a clearinghouse of "cards" and favors before the new election.Both Russia and the United States can benefit at the same time from a conflict. Putin gains favor amongst his people, and in the aftermath of the conflict(or stand-off) the republicans can come in to save the day, and at the same time earn the americans people trust again in our government. So may I suggest there are power plays going beyond even the military industrial complex? I just have.
Look at the oil "contracts" from Iraq and you tell me who is working with who. There many levels of conspiracy to this and the whole she-bang is sold to different players for different things. skip the battles and divide the spoils beforehand. Divide and conquer, let them fight themselves.
Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
Boston bomber was a chechnyan terrorist? hmmmm
I live near NYC and I can tell you this we live in a fuckin police state here....everywhere cops, cameras, military, all looking out for terrorists! bullshit...9/11 was an inside job and Dick douche bag Cheney was absolutely involved....telling Norad to stand down, shit we have technology 20, 30 years advanced of what we think, so you can't tell me that fighter jets couldn't be sent in minutes to new York city after the first plane hit or even after the second....no fighter jets showed up, not even at the Pentagon, what is our military budget billions and billions of dollars and we can't scramble some jets??? it's all bullshit and next week they'll have all the same shit they do every year here and read the names of all the deceased, my good friend among them, and it's not because they care about the dead it's because they want to keep purporting the war on terror alive and well in our minds, which is really policing and controlling the American ppl!
AnonI always asked the same thing ? I wondered why when air traffic control saw 4 planes veering off course were fighters not at the ready, then as you say at the very least after the first plane hit ? Stuart airforce base would have to be about 10 minutes from NYC by fighter jet .
i heard em say dick Cheney is behind this policy que, Fucking DICK
Mike1982Absolutely Cheney was president not georgie dubya. He was sec of defense when dubya was owner of the Texas rangers with none other than Jose canseco as the star. Canseco said they all knew and encouraged steroid use yet bush wants to get in front of congress and talk shit about steroids like he never authorized it before. I look at this site the same way I did the man next to me in combat. I fight for yall. When I light into someone in the forum or wherever for being ignorant or lazy all I see are you guys and the fact that of we don't then we are just pushing up the date on the demise of eroids. We are taught all good things must come to an end. Well we ain't going without a fight. That's why every risk to our safety and security and the integrity of eroids must be met with ferocity. If we allow bullshit then bad things will happen. We always have to learn from our mistakes and keep it pushing. This is a brotherhood I never want to see fade. eroids is a huge part of my life. If it went away I honestly don't know what I would do. Maybe run some test and beat off to.old espisodes of the golden girls haha dick Cheney and George bush man. You know when u get a dick and a bush together somebody gettin fucked
AnonYes but why Dick Cheney ??????? Because of his big corporate connections. Who made the money ?
Obama BlowsBecause our cock sucker-in-chief obama wants to start fucking WWIII so that he can enact marshall law! That slimey scum bag socialist POS is doing all he can to dictate this country
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Obama BlowsI think I should be president lol
Ok you can appoint me head of the FDA, then we can kick Monsanto and their GMO and GE food the fuck outta our country!!
Obama Blowsdeal
Mike1982OB u my boy but trust me its Iran we are after. And not even after to strike. To choke into submission to never get nuclear capabilities. I was out there. Believe me this is why. I don't like any US president because none of them gave a shit about the people. Money rules. Always will. Israel is the threat to start dubya dubya three. Not us.
Mike1982Pank get your ass in here this is our specialty.
Mike1982Shit man Iraq used them on their own people. Update me XV. The decision has been made to strike? I'm still hearing Obama has the idea rolling thru congress, although he has the power to order a military strike without their approval anyway. I don't think there's a chance we will declare war. There's a difference between ordering military action and declaring war. We have no grounds to actually declare war. That would just be insane. It's also my understanding that its unclear who launched the chemical weapons. The Syrian government, the jihadists, or the rebels. Either way it goes I feel this is just a front to test out our new foothold in the Middle East. Before our launches had to take place from either Saudi Arabia or Egypt. Now that we have a new foothold (Iraq) we can launch air operations from the doorstep of any of our "enemies", Iran, Syria, etc. without the need for refueling or longer sorties. And is it a coincidence that we basically don't need Egypt as a launching pad now that that country is in turmoil? I think not. It was never completely stable but the fact that we needed them to base operations from kept the turmoil at bay. Now we don't need them... Hence the destabilization. And now that Saudi Arabia is placing a stranglehold on their oil makes even more sense that we went after Iraq and not the true culprits of 911. Iraq is smack in the middle of all these countries basically and why do you think we need all these new bases in Iraq? Because Egypt was too far for the US to be comfortable and besides the oil that Saudi Arabia supplied they can't stand us. That's why most of the 911 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. So 2+2=4 now. We can strike Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Afghanistan from our bases on the east bank of Iraq with no problem. Now if we can get a foothold in Syria the game is over. Iran can't hide. It's surrounded by US bases therefore the optimal scenario is that we are going after Iran. That's the big picture. And the fact that Iran is on its way to getting nukes makes thatidea much more plausible. We are doing this so Israel doesn't need to strike first. It will be checkmate before Israel is forced to launch a preeminent strike. Because if Israel does that then WW3 will happen. So in my opinion the US is trying to prevent WW3 not start it. We want money not destruction. Either way the US is still wrong but they/we are looking at the big picture. If Iran gets nuclear capabilities Israel will strike first. Checkmate on Iran no strike by Israel. There you go. Typed this fast so sorry about grammar mistakes.
AnonThis was seriously one of the best theories/strategies I've heard In real life and by any of the columnists in paper or tv.
Mike1982And thank you my friend. I just always believe in truth wherever it is because we have been denied it for so long and still are till this day. That's why Obama has no foreign policy, he was a junior senator for two years before becoming president and his decisions are influenced by much higher powers. Intelligence agencies run this country. He gets his information from there and if you can manipulate the intelligence you are in control of the course of history. So the US can't lose here. We get one step closer to complete world domination and we get to look like the saviors because we took Israels fingerboffbthe trigger and we defend the victims of the obvious ploy of a chemical attack which gives us the justification to move one step closer to Iran. If we are in Iraq Syria and Afghanistan then where does that leave Iran? In the center of the dodgeball court getting pelted from all three sides. CHECKMATE!!!
Mike1982Our history going back about 85 years still influences decisions made to this day. When it comes to aas and HGH I Shut my mouth and listen to the experts because that's what you guys are. That's why you never see me comment on cycle advice and especially HGH. I know aas well enough to say my piece but I'm no expert I'm still learning and you will NEVER see me comment or give advice on HGH as I don't yet completely understand even the fundamentals. But when it comes to world/military history and especially strategy i can recite the bible on it word for word. It wasn't until I went thru the loss of my best friend in combat in this lame ass Iraq scandal because that's what it was and is, did I see my education on this subject truly come to fruition. When you see your best friend get carried off the very aircraft you were In charge of not getting hit, and he has shrapnel from a 20mm round that ripped thru the bulkhead torn all thru his chest do you realize what the fuck are we doing here. Sorry pank the guilt is stowed away but I'm still pissed the fuck off about it 9 years later. I love this country but I also hate it with a burning passion.
he hasnt acted yet but he said that " I have decided that military action against syria is necessary" so im assuming he will soon.. i have a feeling WWIII is coming. were pissing off alot of countries
Mike1982XV the truth is we've been pissing off countries since WW2 when we went from the 19th strongest military power to the 1st. And haven't given it up ever since nor will we ever. We are too powerful now. I don't like what we have become but the facts are even if all our enemies came together they still couldn't fuck with the US. He who hold the money holds the power. And china just holds the I owe u not the hard cash per se. Because when someone fights us they don't just fight us they fight a coalition of over 35 countries with us. No country besides Iran or North Korea wants global destabilization. Those two countries could care the fuck less what happens because they are already destabilized by dictators who take everything and leave nothing for the people. The US does that but our people still have money and McDonald's and Walmart lol. And china is inconsequential because they won't do shit. China scares people but what most don't realize is their money is the United States and where china fucked up is when they had the one child policy for so long. Now their up and coming generation is a bunch of spoiled only children who's parents don't want to see them hurt so they baby them just like we do here. That's why all china can do is fuck with our food or launch cyberattacks. Where china is dangerous is in their ability to steal our secrets and sell them to those who want the destruction. So china will never be a direct military threat to us. They underwrite 65% of our debt. We are an investment to them. That would be like hating your money but you aren't about to go outside and set it on fire. The US is very good at what we do now and with Russia destabilized in the 80s the most they can do is supply arms to our enemies which won't do that much damage because china holds the real technology that can rival or surpass ours and you know chinas stance....money.
They have chemical wepons lol. I'm sure there's a lot more they aren't telling us.