posted Sat, 08/31/2013 - 15:00
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Shameless Source promotion in the guise of information
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When a source is allowed to post a forum topic with the veil of being a discussion, and only one side of the discussion is met with acceptance by said source, all other discussion is labeled TROLL!
Is that not source self promotion?
Considering he sells the compound the discussion is leading people in one direction only on?
Trying to discount all scientific data as inconclusive.
When this source copies and pastes into the Topic only entries that coincide with his beliefs and posts other selective comments with an attempt to chastise anyone with the nerve to speak out against those thoughts, how does this continue and not be brought to justice?
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OK... straight to the fact!
By posting this you have 100% gone against my wishes and comments placed on the original thread yesterday....... you have clearly taken my diplomatic air and classed it as weakness towards me.
I asked and begged you to leave it alone and move on.... this is the outcome i log back onto!
The only reason i did not ban you yesterday after the myriad of personal threats you blasted out (which are all listed below) and look and sound worse on the second reading when compiled together like they are... for a member with your level tag is well!.. disgusting to be honest.
I have the gut feeling you are never going to let this petty argument go.and i am hovering over hitting the ban button right now brother,the only thing that is saving your neck here is your long membership and good work you have put in over that time.
OK... here we have it!.. this shit ends HERE and NOW..... you WILL let it go brother or i will let you go...... this is my last word on the whole matter.
Since you're doing this for the "community", let's see what the community thinks about that thread.
The community getting disgusted by the flaming you started
Some of your posts on my thread which was about HGH TESTING
This is my last post to you. The above quotes speak for themselves. I have ZERO respect for you after your immaturity and attitude. You ruined this thread for me and everyone. I wish I could post all the PMs and E-mails I have received about you after this thread. You probably will be so ashamed and leave these Forums. You're talking about Rules? The only one who broke the rules are you with your blatant flaming. I do not care what information you have and how knowledgeable you are, if you can't interact as a human being in a civilized manner without profanity every single post, you are unwelcome.
It is shameful how much your Karma is protecting you. If it were for any other user to behave like you did, they would have been banned by now. So keep on hiding behind your EXP tag and your high karma and join date, and your innocent intentions of looking out for the community, who was severely disgusted by what you have done. Call everyone out for being biased and having a hidden agenda, when most of them have never even bought from me or posted in my SI thread. Do I need to remind you what SI thread you hang out on and pimp 24/7? Does he happen to sell Generics only? Thought so.
Thank you once again for the immaturity, flaming, and negative attitude. Also thanks for wasting my time again and again. This is the last time I will direct any post to you, so stop following me around and replying to every post I make to another member, or else you will be dealt with for purposes of flaming and harassment.
Btw, your "community" has given me 30 upvotes, 47 Karma points, and 13 Favorites. But they're all delusional, you know better.
Goodbye.
Sorry with all the other bullshit I was reading I missed this: and this:
I was not talking about user KK9111, I was talking to a friend about your sales pitch and did not notice he was responding to KK9111. My bad!
Which one that I'm not allowed to mention in open forum? I post many SI's here, but don't pimp or hang out on any of them 24\7 and you can believe you won't find me on yours!
BTW, I have recommended you and Muta for Pharma to those who where looking for it. Am I pimping for you to?
I answer peoples questions impartially based on my dealings with those sources and information I have!
Ask any of the 583 people who have sent me friend requests for advice!
Always the sales men, posting only the portions you feel a relevant to serve your purpose just like an advertisement.
I like the way you posted all my responses but left out the context of why I responded in that manner. When I am personally attacked for stating facts that don't coincide with your sales pitch, yes I will definitely attack the character of the people attacking me so that everyone knows!
Your respect for me or lack thereof is the last thing I'm concerned with. However your constant pitch for everyone to but Pharma HGH by spreading fear and innuendo about other products I won't stand for as a long standing member of this community, my concern is for the community, not your profits!
You keep saying flaming and trolling and my karma protects me. That's all bullshit, if any of the Mods thought I was wrong they would have taken care of it. No favoritism. I do however see your status as a SRC and the comments that Nitti has posted below about SRC posting. Yet as long as it makes you money you'll continue to slip pokes in and bend the rules to benefit your bank account.
Show me "everyone" I called out for having an agenda. As I recall it was maybe 2-3 who follow you around and interject in a tag team fashion on any of my comments toward your shameless promotion!
Follow you around??? I stay up on HGH posts whether your there or not and post FACTs. Dispute any fact I have stated!
I would never voluntarily leave this Community, not because of you or anything you post. You are just a salesmen trying to sway people to your product! Which if it was such a great choice would not require your diligent campaigns against the competition (NON-Pharma HGH).
So happy this is your last time following me around! Enjoy your day!
As long as this is an open forum I will reply to any comment i feel is appropriate. IMO if I'm stating fact or opinion that is my right as a community member!
BTW my karma went up 15-20 pts after this post! And there isn't a way to get karma on this post due to me posting it in the correct location. So instead of just clicking a lil button community members that agree with me on this went out of there way to find other ways to give me props for this. Maybe I'm delusional?
I wasn't fully informed on the reason for the post. Out of respect for my partner Viking I'm opening it back up. Don't let it get out of hand. I don't want to regret this
I have had an issue with sources posting in the general discussion section for a while now. All of those who have posted have brought great insight to the table and sparked excellent debates and great reads for the community. But the fact that a source posts at all is in itself self promoting. It's the same reason we don't let regular members (NON SOURCES) have a website as their username. Because the name itself is associated with a lab/source hence self promotion. With all due respect to Empee, Muta, Banner ,and PP, you all have started some shit with these general discussion posts.
Gfit, I agree with the premise of your argument but I do not believe that he in any way was pumping his own product. If I thought that I would have locked him down immediately. That goes for any source. You are an asset to eroids and have earned your stripes brother. But I'm locking this thread down. I don't want to see fighting like this with sources at the forefront of our general discussion section. If another mod disagrees with me, they can open it back up for you. But since I'm the one here now, I want it closed up. It's pointless really and will accomplish nothing. Chill out gentlemen.
Ok, it took me about 5 minutes to realize this wash posted in general discussion. Yeah, long day! I'll lock it up anyway and the mods will decide on this as a group!
Neither does VIKING who visited the thread twice, or he would have locked it since self-promotion is against the rules right?
Neither do 99% of the members who posted on the thread, I have sadly wasted my time to post all the quotes up there for the people to see.
But I guess 2 MODs and 20+ Reputable Members are not enough.
I think pharma is blown out of proportion. Especially in the GH section. You don't see people hoping on pharma grade test train as if its godly. Why? Cause we have labs here that are just as sanitary and even stronger than pharma grade gear!!
End of the day it's their money, let them spend it on what they want.
Pharma is Pharma. Chinese Pharma is Pharma.
There are so many people "Trying" HGH now without information, or even an idea what to expect, so when I see a source trying to take advantage of those people, for his own gain, under the guise of information, I have to speak out.
bro I tell all those in the market for HGH that unless you have a script you can pretty much count on getting screwed. At best underdosed at worst BUNK
I gotta say the tests I've run on name Brand Chinese HGH show them to be good quality!
GFit you've earned your respect here on the board. Old farts like myself follow your post looking for legit information on AAS and HGH. I agree with you 100% that "There are so many people Trying HGH now without information, or even an idea what to expect". Young members I might add that shouldn't even be trying HGH. I have no opinion on the whole "pushing Pharma" argument. I'll always buy Pharma HGH. My opinion on that subject means nothing. But what I will say is that I do see these Generics being pushed. This doesn't apply to the "name brand" Chinese HGH. When i see a source selling these kits to members young and old, then wanting them to do a GH Serum test to see if they are "legit" well, that's just "cazy pants" and I have to speak out. Wouldn't you agree that this could be potentially a tad bit dangerous? Anyway, that's just my .02. I think we should all let it be and just move on, no?
Appreciate it Brother, and respect your decision. The young or new to HGH members are the easily influenced by these posts. As far as the Generics? I have always said that generics in my opinion are the batches that didn't meet spec, that's why they are sold cheaper. Shit until recently there were NO, NO LABEL GENERICS that tested well at all. Yes, I agree there is always the potential for something to go south after being tested which is why I keep testing.
As far as moving on, I did, I wanted to let all this go. But empee continues to post shit about me with no recourse for me but to defend myself and my reputation i worked years to achieve here!
I'll be the first to say "I don't know it all". That's why I'm here. To learn. But, I can tell you that I've pinned enough rainbow colored generics in my time to be concerned about my future health. That's not me being funny either. The Chinese are notorious for the ole bait n switch. That's why I think testing these things is just free advertisement for them to keep selling that CRAP. I took Em's post as an informative one. It did strike up some subjects that I'd like to research myself. But we can agree to disagree about the nature of his post. EVERY source is here to make money. God bless capitalism. It's not a bad thing. But I know we can both agree there are some sources here that do care about what they send out and try to help members through PMs even if it's about products they aren't selling.
Definitely, I wonder what the fuck i pinned every time a test comes out Void!
Sure it's advertising, I have tested and posted for quite a few sources other than the Chinese. N*** just sent out test kits to lots of guys to try and pick a new generic to sell, a couple were nothing and a couple were OK. 1 tat I didn't test came back "too" good in my opinion.....
I think it's important to keep randomly testing!
Random testing would be the key. Although there's still so much potential for bad ones to be sold. I'd like to just see them just all go away. When I switched to the blue tops waaaaaay back when the Jins were starting to be 'cloned'...."Dude, you're looking SWOLE" wasn't a compliment. I was really swollen. Lol. What the hell was I injecting...and not just one injection with these. We're talking months on end. Might explain some of my mental disabilities. =)
I know what you mean. I was speaking in general. There's a small cult developing with pharma grade gh. I respect you speaking out. I would have done the same had I been as studious as you in this part of the game. Nothing but respect for you gfit.
Thanks, I appreciate it. Pharma is great if you can afford it! That is some of the shit their pushing at me, I'm too poor to run pharma so my opinion isn't worth anything! Fuck That. I've seen posts where a guy says he'd like to try pharma but "NEEDS" to buy something for his kid. An asshole jumps in and says get the Pharma your kid will forget about whatever? I wish I could remember exactly! Again, Bullshit!
Haha that was probably about me. I said my son started preschool and it costs almost a grand a month so I can't afford pharma. Some guy said just build the kid a cardboard fort and get the pharma. Then you said that you hoped that guy never has kids. My son is still in preschool lol no pharma for me
Good for you Brother. Some things are more important then a lil higher IGF-1 #! Hygetropin will get you where you wanna be at a fraction of the cost. I'm running Blue Top IGF-1 Bloods this weekend and Vips HGH Serum Bloods. Should be posted sometime next week. I'll be posting my EBC shots this weekend also, you can see what generics, Rips and Hyges Some BBL gear can do for an old ass mofo like me!!
I was involved in that discussion quite a bit. You also know I use Chinese growth and not pharma. At the beginning I sort of thought it was a one sided discussion Pharma > everything else
but as you know, members like myself, XV, and many many others posted evidence, proof and their personal experiences with generics showing they have had great results. EmPee even agreed that there are good generics out there. XV gave his thoughts saying pharma is not worth using because he has used both and prefers to save money and run a higher dose. as you know his results speak for himself. empee did not dispute XV, he left it alone because it was a valid point. so how can you say it was one sided?
let's just try and let it go my man, if Viking thinks it is self promotion he will take it down. but the majority of people think it is informative
I welcome your opinion here unlike the other post. You can look again, XV was smart and got out of the conversation. Each of his entries are met by either You, empee, NYJUICE, or Muta.
Anonyou made this thread in attempt to have source "self promotion" noticed, which the mods have discarded.. so why do you continue to reference the thread.. you said you're not posting anymore, but each comment you make here just shows you obviously can't let it go.. this post has nothing to do with the debate GF.. so theres really no need to continue the futile attempts to reference it.
Nitti's comment:
I said I wasn't posting on empee's thread out of respect for Viking's wishes. I still watched that thread as empee continued to try to defame me with terms like TROLL and Flamer. So I felt it necessary to post this and get some opinions that were not biased by his silver tongue and status as a SRC. This post was all very calm and simply discussing the topic. There is nothing futile about getting other opinions.
The debate will be continued all over in different posts and on different websites as long as HGH is used by people they will debate the worth of Pharma to the effectiveness of Non US Pharma, Or Branded HGH.
Its gonna happen.
AnonI think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion IMO.. on all sides
I hear you! Out of respect to Viking I can not comment on that post anymore. But as empee continues to attempt to slander me with vague comments of Troll and bullshit, I found it necessary to bring this topic to the community!