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Feeling like Shit. Help a brother out

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I'm 7 weeks into my cycle. Running 50 mg prop, 50 mg tren ace, 50 mg mast prop, every day. Been feeling damn good the entire cycle, good lean gains and have felt like a rockstar. However for the past three days I've felt quite shitty after about 5 pm. I wake up and lift every morning at 5 am and go to bed at 10:30 every night. I'm currently taking pharma caber .5 mg every three days, aromasin 6.25mg every day. Joints feel good, no gyno symptoms, sex drive is strong, takes me slightly longer than normal to finish the job, but not as bad as on some of my previous tren cycles. I eat clean, I take my vitamins and I still kill hookers. However the past three days I get home from work and feel like absolute dog shit. I lay down and crash. I don't feel Iike doing anything except sex of course. I'll always be able to pull myself together for that. I'm damn dead to the world. Have to force myself to eat, just want to sleep. I wake up at 5am an then feel like a million bucks. I'm thinking that I need to drop the tren. I normally do at around four to six weeks but have felt so good, and the masteron has completely countered the negative tren sides for me. I don't know bros. so far I've decided to drop the tren. I don't want to but I think it's the culprit. Any thoughts?
All my love, no homo
Ed.

OmNom's picture

bet you were sweating your balls off too lololol

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol. I like that answer. I'll carb it up tonight just for you brother. I'm not afraid. :). Thanks for the input bro.

OmNom's picture

eww their burgers are tiny

OmNom's picture

I just can't stand biting into a burger that has a patty thin as paper.. makes me feel.. wrong lmao.. now have you tried that new wendy's double pretzel burger... dear god it is AMAZING

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol, a double pretzel burger? That sounds horrible! But I hate pretzels too. Maybe I need to try one. Smile

OmNom's picture

Couldn't hurt.. the beef they use in it is good.. nothing like the crap at other places plus it tastes amazing

Engineereddisaster's picture

I once ordered all you can eat catfish at a restaurant. It was pretty damn good until the second round when I bit into a piece that was still frozen and raw in the middle. Disgusting. There is a reason sushi joints never serve catfish. I will say that is wasn't as gross as the time when I was a kid eating pizza at a restraunt Took a bite the piece was chewy as hell so I pulled the piece out of my mouth and realized there was a used bandaid in it. I still hate pizza.

OmNom's picture

a buddy of mine brought one over.. when i saw it i knew i was in love.. went out and got one and they're pretty good

OmNom's picture

I was 212 but I'm down to 196.. gonna try to get really shredded.. but yeah I try to treat myself to what ever junk I want once I start seeing results.. at least for a day or two.. otherwise after a few weeks I can't walk outside without being tortured by food advertisements all day

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol. That would fricken destroy me. I know I couldn't walk away from that feeling good. Smile

Engineereddisaster's picture

Yeah, I've yet to hear anything good about research chemicals.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Thanks for the input brother. I def. need to check the estro. High or low. Honestly though I've had zero estro sides like bloat, acne, puffy nips. Kind of wierd.
Thanks bro.

Nitti's picture

Any chance you switched labs mid cycle? I'm thinking solvents. That's another killer for me. Those nasty solvents some labs use kill my energy and stamina. In fact guiacol straight up KO's me

Engineereddisaster's picture

I did switch up my tren about two. Weeks into the cycle, but that's it. I've been running test prop 250 with guiacol the whole time. Maybe I'll drop the guiacol and see if that helps. Thanks bro.

Nitti's picture

If you've been running it the whole time I doubt it's the culprit. It's almost an immediate reaction for me. Within an hour of pinning guiacol I'm nodding out like a dope head.

Engineereddisaster's picture

I do truly hate guiacol. I've never had a bad reaction. But hate everything about the smell and taste.

Nitti's picture

I start feeling shitty at week 5 any time I run tren. No real explanation but it never fails. All my sides kick up and I feel like roasted ssshole!

Engineereddisaster's picture

I'm thinking that's likely my prob. Just too big of a pussy to run tren for longer than 6 weeks.

NoPain's picture

Try pulling the tampon out!

Engineereddisaster's picture

I did, but your mom ended up bleeding all over my face.

NoPain's picture

Well, how did it taste?

Engineereddisaster's picture

Strangely a lot like your girlfriend.

NoPain's picture

LOL. I knew I couldn't trust that bitch. Luckily I have my wife as backup.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol. So do I!

Kidding..
You are always a good sport. Smile

iFit's picture

Of course we are all just speculating but same thing happens to me when I crash my estro which is often. I have a very hard time dialing in my AIs. A drop too much and I feel just like you. Wake up early, feel good, hit gym, then crash. A drop too little and my nips get puffy.

Right now I'm doing .25 Adex eod and so far so good. Aromasin just about destroys me.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Maybe I'll give the adex a go, I've always had good luck with a quarter tab of aro a day that's why this is baffling me a bit. But maybe the masteron is crashing it. Thanks for the input brother.

XvBeast's picture

u probably have high estro, i would switch the aromasin with adex and run the adex at around .5mg eod till u feel better, if u feel the same or worst for the next couple of days then its probably low estro, then u need to cut on the ai. then switch back to aromasin. or better yet, get a blood test to chk ur estrogen then u ll know, but my guess is high estrogen. experiencing depression? bloat? acne?

lower the test to 25mg

Engineereddisaster's picture

I've got some adex on hand, maybe I'll switch it up. I've got zero bloat, and zero acne (never been prone to it).
I am a little depressed after 5pm when I'm feeling shitty, other than that I'm a pretty happy guy. No homo. Also, I've thought about dropping the test dose. Good point.
Thanks for the input.

XvBeast's picture

try the adex it cant hurt, if u feel worst then the effects of it are only temporary unlike the aromasin.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Good point. Thanks man.

Cheatnnature's picture

Sounds like a stressed out liver bro. Bloods are a must but of course u know that. When I feel like that its usually high liver values.

Engineereddisaster's picture

I hope its not liver issues, but you are absolutely correct. Bloods are definately a must. I'm kind of in a tough situation living in BFE, where everyone knows me, and live a considerable distance away from a an anonymous facility. I'll definately jump on them when I get a chance. Thanks for the input.

Cheatnnature's picture

Yeh ill keep my fingers crossed for ya bro. But look into this supplement damage control on strongsupplementshop.com has everything to keep u safe and is cheap.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Thanks bro. I'll check it out.

Vindictive1's picture

Tren had me feelin like that to bro at times i'd feel like such shit, I almost stopped taking it a few times for that reason and I tried everything to beat the shitty feeling sides but nothing really worked.

Around the 6 week mark with ace is when it started happening the crappy feeling should pass it did for me but it will come back the longer your on, it's just the nature of the beast brother! Some days I felt like a million bucks, then other days felt like someone robbed me for that mill an beat me with a bat lol

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Engineereddisaster's picture

That sounds just like my situation. Thanks for the input.

Drywallstar's picture

So up until 5pm you feel fine? Maybe you need some more carbs or healthy fats? I crashed my estro in pct
With asin and I felt shitty 24 hours a day lol. Maybe get bloods?

Engineereddisaster's picture

I do run the carbs quite low later in the day, but am really good to intake the healthy fats. From various nuts (no homo) and organic coconut oil. My diet has always been pretty solid it's just recently hit me. Perhaps an adjustment in my carb intake might be a good idea. Thanks for the input brother.

Darktide's picture

Even though there is no joint issues. I would cut back the aromasin to every other day but I would lay off it totally for about 4 days. I have has this issue and even though I didn't have the joint symptoms, I was lethargic and felt tired. I cut back my aromasin and in less than a week I was better.

I also think I didn't compensate for how much masteron really does cut down on estrogen

Engineereddisaster's picture

Thanks bro, I'll try that. My estrogen could definately be on the low end.
Thanks for the help.