posted Wed, 08/28/2013 - 13:01
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what proof that hyge and rips has hgh?
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Is there any proof dat hyge,rips and other Chinese ug contain real somatropin? It could be peptides right? I read a Chinese concerns thread on some forum I don't remember and it actually scares me. Has anybody done any tests to prove it has somatrppin?
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http://www.eroids.com/pics/pharma-igf-vs-generic-igf
WithdrawlI know they have hgh based on the awesome results I've been getting. Testing is great, but all I care about is results I get from using them. I don't care what's in them, all I know is they've taken my body to the next level and I feel great. That's proof enough for me.
There is hgh in Hyges for sure nikkah
AnonHyges,vips and rips have all been testing good, with high HG serum levels and elevated IGF levels. here are some links to recent blood work done by members of our community. If you check the the lab test section under community pictures people are always posting results. Weather its AAS or HGH you will find what is testing good and bad there. It will help you stay clear of the bad stuff.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/igf-1-brown-top-hyges
http://www.eroids.com/pics/igf-1-and-gh-test-on-2.5-ius-of-rips
http://www.eroids.com/pics/head-to-head-vips-vs.-rips-comparison-igf-1-l...
http://www.eroids.com/pics/1-month-brown-top-hyges-2ius-6-days-a-week-ig...
thank you so much. these test results are like lottery for me. so happy to see these results:))
AnonStevebThanks
Anonno problem
Tell me what you think: http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/hgh-testing-the-real-deal
PericlesIt is my understanding that HGH levels vary under many circumstances, that the best test is to look at IGF-1. Real HGH will elevate IGF-1 consistently.
I see that Growing man is also aware of this fact.
Steveb.
Am I permitted to post pics of the Hygetropin box and pictures of my lab work results here?
Thanks
You can post a link.I'll do it for you.And you don't need to reply to my question about labs.I opened my eyes and saw them. http://www.eroids.com/pics/6-months-3iu-daily-hyge-from-ehealthpill.com-...
Lab works do NOT prove its hgh.............serum tests dont show if its HGH.
It can be peptides boosting your levels......
I posted lab and product pics, My igf actully went down after taking Hyge for 6 months.. Does that mean its fake?
Yes 100pct.
i used riptropin recently from a very trusted source. i should say that in the beginning, when using the first set of vials, i felt extremely good on it. i was not using any other steroid. but the vials which were in the middle of the set did not give me any good feelings or effects. it was just like injecting water. then again towards the end of the set(the last 1 or 2 vials), i felt really good, while on it.
i think they keep the vials with some somatropin in the beginning of the set.(the first and second vial which we are most likely to start with). then they just fill in something else in the middle of the set and finish the set with a few gud vials.
AnonYou should do some blood work. Its not heroin so just shooting is not gonna give you a high or instant effects . Hgh is slow and gradual and at that dose you may not notice a thing. Depending on the individual sides can always be different though .As far as feeling really good on it ,your mood can be effected by numerous amounts of things.
I think having some blood tests done would be a "gud" way of getting to the bottom of your suspicions.
not any blood test. an ifg-1 test only will reveal the truth. if igf is higher than the base levels, then the stuff is real, or else fake. i dont know why some sources here still post hgh levels on various hgh brands. that is not a reliable info on the contents.
Mass specs have been done and posted on the forums, none indicated the presence of Somatropin.
StevebPharma HGH is about $12 an IU and I can get Hyges for $1.90 an IU. Is Pharma HGH that much better because it cost a hell of a lot more?
You are talking about blue tops right?
not rips or hyges? I have seen hygetropin mass spec and they were damn good, contained somatropin, correct amino acid sequence, purity was 88% I think or 90ish. But the molecular mass was almost identical. It also was dosed slightly above 10iu a little under 11 but pretty close to 10
I'm confused, how can Somatropin have different molecular mass? It is either same mass, which means it is Somatropin, or it is not. It cannot have "similar" mass.
Plus, if it contained Somatropin, then it has the same exact molecule as Pharma GH does. Then how come pharma is more potent. If it is the same molecule, the body would not know if it is coming from pharma or generics, and 1mg of Somatropin will have the same effect. But we all know that 1IU of pharma is more potent than 1 IU of Hyges.
Only explanation to the above is that, if it is true than Somatropin IS present in the sample, it is present at lower quantities than advertised.
Dude I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you. I know that it was nearly identical. I don't know man I'm not a laboratory chemist, but the results showed it was real. Maybe the fisher's model isn't perfect IDK.
http://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/33203/image_0.jpg
from carlosdanger hygetropin mass spec
22125 DALTON and the fisher's molecular weight is 22145 dalton
remember a dalton is 3.32106e-20 milligrams!
atoms can have a slightly different molecular mass called isotope if I can remember right, not sure if that's why the mass may be off? either way the mass spec test claimed it contained somatropin. Dosing and purity isn't pharma grade but that's not what we are talking about.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet........
I was aiming more for a healthy discussion than a pissing match. But if you want to get mad about it no need to discuss any further. I asked a valid question IMO. If it is Somatropin, why does 1IU of pharma yield much better results. Only explanation is that generic is underdosed, since pharma is regulated and must be dosed properly. Any other explanation?
The title of this thread is: what proof that hyge and rips has hgh?
Your claim:
I was just showing you a mass spec that showed hyges containing somatropin in the sample. Simple as that. I'm not disputing that it's not as pure or dosed as accurately as pharma grade, I was simply stating it is real and has been shown by tests posted by Beaker. Go to the man himself if you dispute the results, I'm no chemist and I was just going off of the labs.
My question is very valid and not off-topic at all. Don't act like I'm going off the track. First part of my question says "If it is Somatropin", which you claim it is according to mass specs. So you should be able to answer the question.
I still hold my claim, there is probably no HGH in there. And if there is, it is extremely underdosed and mixed with other shit.
I'ma leave it here because you cannot hold a proper discussion and seem edgy today. Peace.
I cannot hold a proper discussion? How am I supposed to answer this? The mass specs show it is real and dosed slightly overdosed and recent igf-1 tests have shown hygetropin dramatically raising igf-1 levels. Gh serum tests have always been high with hyges (I know serum isn't as good of test as igf but it still proves some hgh is present).
So if hygetropin contains no hgh or "extremely underdosed" why do all these tests prove otherwise? I can understand your argument if it is aimed at blue top generics, I agree blue top generics are garbage and most likely just peptides to give false positives in a test. I also have seen mass spec for some blue tops and they WERE underdosed
It is real + slightly overdosed --> 1IU Hyges should yield the results of at least 1IU of Pharma. Unless I'm missing something here. Correct?
It should but it is not going to yield the exact same results as pharma. No one really knows for sure. For one, I believe they way they are made is what makes the difference. The fillers may be different also
I'm not sure how the "way they are made" would make a difference. As long as you are obtaining the same Molecule, the way it was made shouldn't make a difference. The body will still observe the same molecule.
About fillers, these should not affect the positive effects. I understand that fillers in generics may induce more sides. But that's what they will do, I don't think they can reduce the potency of Somatropin, or else they wouldn't put them in there right? So different fillers would indicate that positive results from pharma vs generics should be identical, BUT side effects shouldn't.
I remember in my Discrete Structures course (or any Maths class), we used to start by a Hypothesis (here: Soma is present in hyges, it is real and slighlty overdosed). Based on logical calculations, we obtain a conclusion. If we know for sure the conclusion is wrong (here: "it is not going to yield the exact same results as pharma"), then the Hypothesis is wrong. Unless there was an error in the calculations somewhere in the middle.
I have been using hygetropin for the last 6 months. 3iu's daily. Just had blood work done and met with my Dr. To go over the lab results. Well a year ago my igf levels were at 124. After 6 months of hygetropin it was 123. Dr said it doesn't look like the hygetropin is real high Any reason other than the hygetropin is fake?
Thanks
So please show some pictures and batch number of teh hyges that you using, you help us a lot, and could be great to see teh blood test. this Hyges was certificated on the web?? Thanks
yea you must have had fakes
Definitely sounds like what you got was fake.Was it from a supplier on here?I don't think you can mention the supplier,but if you had a picture posted of the hyges you could enter the supplier into the supplier field.
I posted pics under the "submit a picture" product area...thanks!
A lot of people are getting gh from who you ordered from.Do you have the labs to post up?People have gotten gh serum tests and they came back good.I don't know if anyone else had an igf test done.
AnonNo 'proof'.
Generic UG HGH very well could be a peptide such as CJC 1295 with DAC or a blend of CJC 1295 and DSIP(Delta Sleep-inducing Peptide) (to induce drowsiness, a typical HGH side).
If it costs under $200 a kit.. I'd be worried.
How about this?I ordered some rips over a year ago and they were seized. The vials were shipped in blank boxes and the rip boxes and vial labels were shipped in a separate package.I received the boxes and labels.The seizure letter i received a few weeks ago stated that the vials contained hgh.Not very scientific but apparently the vials contained hgh.
You really think they waste time and money on testing what they seize? lol
I've had HCG seized and the seizure letter said HGH even when the box and vials it was coming in clearly said HCG on them. I know of guys that have ordered numerous orals like var etc and the letter has said winny or some other shit on it.
They know what to look out for, once they find it they take it and that's it end of story.
This is the US government we're talking about.Wait,your right.They wouldn't waste time and money.
Nope they do but on much more useless things
lol I can't argue that!
okay. lets say they test ur shit and found some hgh in it. that could be 1 or 2 iu. so it obviously became a compound with hgh(the banned substance) in it. it still is faked. unless it has considerable amount of hgh in it, they are ripping us off. the only way to tell the shit is real is to test for the hgh in it as well as the amount of hgh in it.
How do you know the DEA or government haven't been tracking this source and know by the vials and their already seized gear in the past. Its a building process for the government. so there is no proof they shipped you hgh regardless of what is said in some letter..........
That's true.The vials had no labels,but they do have a distinct cap.
Unless you pay for the actual powder to get tested, which costs lots of money, then the technical answer is NO.
I received a seizure letter on unlabeled orals. Came back listing the correct compound. They test your shit.