posted Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:23
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Are we Narcissistic
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I've been trying to figure out what makes us push, change, transform our bodies the way we do?
Is it narcissism, egotism? possibly insecurity? are we alpha males and females? do we do it for the opposite sex?
are we simply superficial?? or does it come from a healthier place inside us all??
what is the common thread the runs though us all?
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Buildbigger86This is a great discussion topic:
For me i believe that all the reason's Alayna listed above apply to me some more then others. I would say first alpha male starts it all for me then a possible bit of insecurity on how my body looks, so from there of course you want to better yourself and look better so we start to workout hard and eat well and get healthy and feel great start to get a nice base and of course always checking out the pretty ladies at the gym pushing yourself to look better and better. Then you gain some good confidence and a nice build and starting thinking now you have to take to a new level with your training which would the egotism side of you. Then you get to the next level and you have this wonderful feeling inside of you, a feeling of discipline,accomplishment,a feeling a well being, then you really reach deep down and realize all the goals you have accomplished and you realize if i can this i can do anything. So then you make the right discussion and say i am going to life like this and go at everything as hard as i can and go as far as i can mentally and physically with my mind body and soil. That is my two cents on this topic
I can see the attraction for a lot of guys to go to gyms these days because of the amount of women in there it could be a place to start relationships .... back in the day when I started out gyms were like sacred dungeons of iron for men only.. dirty, stinking of sweat and ass ointment.. no women would have wanted to enter but I fkn loved it.. it was the real deal and gym etiquete had to be learned very quick or you were OUT!.... ok I will get back on topic, I have actually forgotton what got me started at the age of 16.. it just seemed to be the natural thing to do due to being no computers or game systems back then ... without training I would have been bored to death I think!.. my GF who I met at age 17 later became my first wife so chicks and messing around were never part of my life back then, womanising just aint me so that played no part in my bodybuilding at all.
This post has me really struggling to give you a real reason but after some deep thought I think its the whole regimented total commitment that this lifestyle demands that keeps me plugged in.. meaning it suits my personality being very OCD about most things and organised like life itself depends on it... I cannot stand any part of my life to be fragmented in any way, everything has to be pigeon holed and perfect or I sorta lose it and get stressed bad.
So yeah I would say its the "demands for commitment" that drive me bro... and being a competitor that's a whole new different level which only competitors will understand... that is THE ultimate test of self-discipline which any body else on here who competes can attest to... I have seen proper comp prep break 100s of people to never attempt the crippling diets and routines ever again..... the difference is I thrive from it and actually look forwards to the next session of feeling like the near dead... yeah sounds weird but im one weird MoFo..... lmaooooooo
i remember the days when girls were JUST starting to invade the iron man cave...i must admit i miss those days...gyms are like f-ing spas now....
You are such an inspiration to us all in more than just ur awesome body you are a man of class, accomplishment and dignity....which imo makes you my ideal of a true Alpha male
no homo! xo
Shesh!... I read your response and just sat back and stared at the screen for a good 10mins before attempting to type I feel so humbled.. a fast one line answer would be pointless to a women like youself who is obviously an excellent reader of people and needs.. no, demands a deeper thought out answer than a load of shallow bullsh@t, your life experience clearly shows in the way you carry yourself on the boards and I have a suspected gut instinct that in life you are a professional body in some way shape form.... I was going to place a question mark there but its pointless because I am positive on my assumption... reason being your class shows through clear as day to me.
Thank you for bringing your style of class to our eroids boards... your presence is greatly appreciated by myself and a whole lot more that's a fact!
Thankyou alayna
Buildbigger86VIKINGGGGG, Always able to make me smile and learn some knowledge all in the same post. Your a wonderful teacher and mentor my friend!!!
You are 100% right about my professional position! yr intuition is spot on mate! lol lol
mwah mwah mwah p.s. thank you
well ur two cents was def worth a dollar!
p.s. us ladies really dont realize just how hard men work to catch our attention hmmmm
Buildbigger86I dont know about that, i think you ladies know exactly how hard we try to catch your attention..
the truth is until i saw the way my son and his friends acted i really didnt know...im always nice to men that approach me cause i know minus beer muscles it can be a little intimidating lol
Buildbigger86HAAAAAAAAA, Alayna my girl, you sure have jokes don't you. I have to give it to you though as much as i DONT want to admit it. That was very goood
hehe :0)
I wouldn't say narcissism, but do it for insecurities? Sure. For the opposite sex? Absolutely.
My whole life I have been "skinny". At least that's what my family, friends, kids at school, teachers, everyone told me. I had no idea I was skinny or that it mattered. I have always been a heavy eater. I definitely ate my macaroni and cheese, my hamburger helper, and BK mcdonalds everything as a kid. I have always been able to eat anything I want and stay skinny. It's just the way I am.
I saw nothing wrong with it, but constantly been told "you need to put meat on those bones" or "do your parents feed you?"
Over the years I guess I was tired of hearing it. I wanted to do something about it. Not because I wanted to but because I was tired of hearing about it from others.
Through high school it was mostly to build muscles and look good for the girls. Now in college, it's the same reason but it's more then that. For the first time in my life I have a strong physique. I worked hard for it. The compliments from others make it all worth it. The truth is, I have more then enough muscles right now than I really need. But I feel like I would rather be bigger, more ripped, basically a perfect body. I still have a ways to go for that. Closer, but still need more size and less BF.
I guess I truly am insecure, I admit. It's a never ending battle that I can only hope to overcome.
well when you wrote "its more than that" it shows yr growth as a person so it is beginning to come from a healthier place....and its a battle quite a few of us are still working,to overcome ...keep up the hard work
shirlsguyJust wanted my wife and kids to adore me again... to look at me the way they used to. Initially, I lifted because I was a very tiny boy placed into a world of very large and dangerous men. http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/shi...
One, some, or all the above! I don't think there is a common thread. People are so diverse in their thinking that its a cumulative brew of life choices and experiences that drive us individually to this point. Some start as teens. I my self chose to do my first cycle at 40. For me it was a chance to recapture some of my youth and the desire to feel that strength and passion that comes with the slurry of hormones you have when your young.
heres a song on the topic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUOlc_j4rMA
i tried opening the song but nothing was there
I've decided to answer this question now myself....i am not a narcissist bec i spent way too many years hating on myself...i owned others people's
dysfunction and believed what they said about me; that i was ugly and fat...as a young teenager i fixed the fat problem by becoming anorexic the ugly problem oh well....i weighed in at 102 at 5'4 and that was perfect i was skinny, thats all that mattered...the truth is there are still times i hate on myself...i've been through an enormous amount of abuse and the muscles i've developed are like armor to me, as well as a reflection of my inner strength and courage...i can be egotistical but for the most part i was humiliated so much that my ego is not that big...i am truly humbled every time i am paid a flattering compliment....bodybuilding has def helped me to find a healthier perception of myself both inside and out.... and yes it is nice to turn a few heads too bec i have muscles
BigBmajIf that's all it takes to flatter you. You are looking great.
Seems like many of the interesting people here have been through some shit. Tough situations make tough people.
thank you BB....and yes that is the truth
That was really well put Alayna! But I have to say as beautiful as your body is and I can't see any flaws your soul is even hotter, first class!
aw dont make me cry
Damn that was not my intent, I suck at chivalry ;)
no no it was super sweet...I was moved by it sorry i should have put a smiley face
No I know I was just joking with you that is why I winked lol.
oh lol i missed the wink
Pain!! And strength! That's it!!
keeps me from going nuts... or to keep it under control.
the more beat up I am.. the less I want to do.
the benefits are good.
im just addicted to pain I think lol
Hi Viking
Mwaaaah.... you ok babe :)... hows the var treating you ?? need a fine tune hit me up in PM ok
im on m my third day...im super excited...i will def hit you up if i need to...thank you ciao babe xoxo
Yeah the pain of torturing others who are 20 years old with your photos:)! I like you giving that pain as well!
Hahahaha... trust you! lol.. how ya doin man
Great brotha, how about you and Suzy, I know you guys are out there tearing up the comps! You presence is always missed when your busy.
yeah been real busy with the comps and everything that rolls with it.. suze just pulled a fifth placing in the trained Miss Britain, she should have won it in my eyes and a bunch of others who know the game well but judges are what judges are on the day... shes happy and settled with it now but it took a couple of days to pull her back together.. she put all she has into this for a universe gig.. ah well maybe next year brother.. glad to have her back eating again she was down to 3%BF and wired to the gills.. so nice to have her back on planet earth till we start again for October lol
Congrats to both you and Suzy! You both lead the way for us all here! Glad and hope you both can sit enjoy each other as I know your days off are harder work then when most people work with all your disciples lol!
Made a lot of new friends at the comps and the part I like best is the invites to different cities to go meet up and spend time training with them in their gyms... great for learning a few new tricks and I also really enjoy the camaraderie created its a real buzz spending time with people whos passion equals ours.
Let's see I can honestly say I do it for none of the reason listed above... I do it because one day I won't be able to. One day I will not be able to move my hands, feet... Hell I don't know what else. As for now I know that it leads some aid to keeping me flexible and strong. I've never needed the gym to make me feel anymore sexy or beautiful, I was blessed with that from the beginning. But I do have a little girl at home that I had rather she look in the mirror and want to look strong like mommy than skinny and staving like the models on TV. As far as the Alpha part goes, hell yeah I'm an alpha! By that I mean I lead by example and I do not sit around and wait for others to approve the decision that I plan on making. I am the one leading the pack in every situation. Head strong, stubborn and even at times a bitch.However, I get results I make progress and I give a refreshing sense to those I meet. Those who know me know I'm not like anyone they've ever meet.. EVER! So to me I think that's as alpha as they come.
my sentiments exactly! well said
Chaz32621Narcissism actually a friend told me I was one recently. Lmao I just want to look good naked. I fuck good why not look like I can too ;) I don't want to be normal I want people to recognize me. Leave an imagine in there mind. That and show how fucking lazy people are and how they can't put there mind to it.
tread-mYes
Hey tread I haven't seen you around in a while. I'm gonna send you a pm later , I would like your opinion on something.
tread-mFasho brother, brang it.
^lol
Well i do it for myself, and yes i am very narcistic and pretty egoistic too.
Our world is superficial, and not everyone who lifts is alpha, i know a few 240+ guys who just try to hide their insecurities behind their muscles and if you get to know them you know how beta they really are.
BigBmajI've been thinking about this as I work today. Initially I was repulsed by a few of the messages here and I now know why. First I failed to see sarcasm in some of them. And the bottom line is that my ego is OUT OF CONTROL and I need to be humbled.
I think I use bodybuilding to cover up some hidden insecurities. I was small in high school and I wasn't the most athletic person. I think some of those initial senses of ineptitude hit me hard for some reason. I had never felt overly powerful and I have gotten the shit kicked out of me a number of times because I rarely backed down and my mouth gets me in trouble.
So then I got big and everyone treated me differently. Other guys stated coming up to me for advice. And I had a totally different group of friends.
I had always had pretty good luck with women, but a new caliber of woman was now giving me lots of attention. This can lead to ego problems when you go out to a club and girls ask to touch your body.
I think when your "body" makes that big of a difference in social interaction, I tend to not notice that it's the confidence, not the body, that made the shift. So I think that I place a huge importance on how I look, because that's what gets me the attention I apparently needed. This attention reassures me of my value I guess.
Somewhere along the line my ego probably grew out of control. I try to keep it in check but the truth is that it needs lots of work.
No homo.
since im a girl you dont have to worry about the no homo part...lol
yes many ppl including myself were being very sarcastic however there is truth in sarcasm.....
all of us are egotistical its part of our being...the ego in some ways protects us from emotional hurt ...we have it for a reason...its also a mechanism for us to learn from...how many times have we said " i let me ego get in the way" christ i know i've stood strong and stubborn and cried my eyes out rather then let someone know they hurt me.....so the fact that you recognize this part of yourself says a lot about you....
you now need to own who you've become and become wiser about ur choices and be confident in who you are in a humble way...
BigBmajI only added the "no homo" part because I felt like I was getting a tad sensitive in my post. I had to say a blantent straightism to offset it a tad.
OK let me throw this in the mix. I did my own personal little experiment on vanity for the last 45 days or so. I have been known to turn a few heads in my time but lately I can't get squat. I hate shaving and decided I would let my beard grow until I could not stand it any longer. We are not talking Duck Dynasty here, more like Grizzly Adams. I wanted to see if I felt any different because of my beard as far as how I felt about my personal appearance. I discovered no chick between the ages of 20-45 wants anything to do with it. They do not even look at me walking into the grocery store. It's as if I am not even there. Different from the usual smile or at least acknowledgement. Fifty year old women, now that's a different story! I think vanity can have a lot of influence on our personal image but I also feel confidence, true confidence in ones self is independent of looks.
On another note, if I miss more than 2 days at the gym I start to get blue.....pun intended.