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40+ and Low Test

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Just ran some bloods before running my first cycle. All seems pretty good except my Test was at 338 with the minimum normal being 348. My labs are in the Photos--->Lab Tests section.

I was thinking of running:

Test e: 500mg/week for 12 weeks
Dbol: 25mg/day for 4 weeks. (or 6 depending on advice)

Aro during cycle to handle any gyno starting at the 2nd week.

Clomid/Nolva for pct.

I'm not really doing this to get my test production up to normal range but to kick ass at the gym.

BigBond007's picture

I partially agree with what's been said here. however, you could use the Dbol for a only a couple weeks to jumpstart your cycle. If you ran it all the way through, you'd have mad strength and weight gain, but you'd look doughy. The culprit of your headache is most likely the Dbol. HOWEVER. After dropping the Dbol, I would recommend adding some Deca Durabolin.... (which should have been all along). Test and Deca complement each other nicely for a first timer, as well as running all the way through at even doses. 1cc a week is fine. If your feeling froggy, you can do 1cc a 3 or 4 days apart.

As far as the Anti-estro. goes, if you don't have sensitivity, your fine without, however, you can take 1 Arimidex (Anastrozole) every few days to keep the bloat down with your current regimen. If you have any other questions, feel free to hit me up. Good luck, take care.

B.

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Hey Big. Thanks for the info. I'm currently just taking the Test E on the recommendation of alot of people. I have to admit that I was and still am so tempted to just take the Dbol. Today is my 7th day of my cycle and pinned 250mg of Test E and will do the next on Tuesday. I honestly didn't consider the Deca since I'm a noob and your the first to give me that advice. Not sure what you think at this point but I'm only taking the Test. I feel so much better today and have had no headaches. I don't know if its possible but I somehow feel stronger working out and even do better cardio. Not sure if its just my imagination since its only day 7 going on 8.

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Update: Going on my day 7 of Test tomorrow and have a few questions that I hope someone can please answer. Number 1: Do I take AI ONLY if I start to feel nipply or should I have already started it. At this point I don't feel nipply. Number 2: I have noticed the last 2 days I have a low grade headache. My bp is normal but not sure if this is due to Estrogen or perhaps me getting used to the Test or maybe its not related at all. Thanks for any replies.

Doss's picture

Have you ran any cycles before?

dandog's picture

Never have. My first cycle. I was at first going to run an only Test cycle but alot of people told me to add dbol. Whats your thought if you don't mind me asking.

Doss's picture

Personally, I don't advocate more than one compound for a first cycle. There are several reasons for this. Most importantly is that each has its individual set of side effects. When an issue arises from your cycle, you'll want to be able to troubleshoot and correct it. To do so, you'll need to know how your body reacts to each individual compound per the respective dose. Stacking multiple new compounds makes it nearly impossible to do this.

Outside of that, the side effects may be more pronounced for a first time running a compound because your body is not used to having these exogenous hormones in it. Too many at one time magnifies this.

So, I don't advocate anything more than test for your first run. There are couple cycle logs posted on my profile for reference points. If trt is where you're headed, the prop taper may not be ideal for you. Dropping from 500/wk to 200-250/wk is no big deal.

My advice: drop the dbol and stick with enanthate only. 500/week for 12 weeks with a good AI, solid training and diet, you'll be surprised how well you respond to it.

Browse around my forums and shoot me a fr. Anything I can do to help, I'll do my best. If I don't have the answer you need, I'll find someone that does.

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You're the man! Thanks! So I'll fr you for sure!