what you think of this bulk and cut cycle?
BULK CYCLE -
Test E - test e 750 mg week - 14 weeks long
Deca - 500 mg week - 10 weeks long
Adex .5 Eod unless - 14 weeks long
Caber - 1mg a week - 18 weeks long
Week 1 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
CUTTING CYCLE -
Test prop -150mg Eod - 10 weeks long
Anavar - 80-100 mg per day split into two dosages a day - 6 weeks long
Adex - .5 Eod all the way up to last shot after last shot you wait 3 days and then begin this pct -
Week 1 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
what you guys reckon?
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RustyhookerSince thetes time between the two....yes. First cycle add the hcg last 8 Weeks at 500iu split.
Cutter.....25e3d if/as needed. Dont want estro crashed...just under control.
Ai//pct section....sexy mexy created the aro pct for regular cycles. Read his new forum in there. Switches out nolva to avoid any rebound in pct.
Aro pct is awesome! Just finished it and kept my gains(January-). My next cycle is a nor cycle so going witj sexy mexys switch pct.
thinking off adding hcg to this cycle too can someone advise me on the correct way to use it cheers
i just finished running a test and deca cycle, if youre set on running the HCG only run it in the last 4 weeks of cycle, itll prime your boys to get ready for PCT to start making test again. to much hcg can be a bad thing. over stimulate the pituitary and lh and than you can never make test again. theres a lot of different thought here on HCG, we all know this, it only helps get you ready to start making test again, primary use on cycle for it, is for testicular atrophy, basically taking it on cycle will give you normal looking balls. your are still shut down, what happens on cycle is you take the HCG it stimulates you, balls go to normal size, which can hurt a little after the shot, than you take your next test or deca shot and bam, your shut down more and balls shrivel right back up, seems self defeating to me, and your sending lots of mixed signals to the endocrine system. but if you decide to do it 250 to 500 mcg every 3 days in the last 4 weeks is the best way to do it
what does this change since you still injecting roids and "and your sending lots of mixed signals to the endocrine system." ?
"but if you decide to do it 250 to 500 mcg every 3 days in the last 4 weeks is the best way to do it"
well the only real change comes from the aesthetic look of having normal size testicals rather than testicals that look theyve never dropped, aside from that, i dont see a single positive to doing HCG through out cycle because of the potential for over stimulation and the constant antagonistic effect on the endocrine system. some may agree im sure some wont. it would be nice for others to chime in on it though. and i only say in the last four weeks because youll be finishing cycle and the boys will be a bit stimulated and ready for PCT. as hcg stimulates LH release and gets the leydig cells ready to do their thing. so as i said if you do decide to do it, the most common doses are 250mcg to 500mcg every 3 days. i will give a why and how, because everyone may not follow the advice given, and if youre going to do it, at least do it safely
thanks for the advice good read ... do you think I need hcg or I will be okay without it ?
honestly, i would take the shot, have normal testicals for a bit and they were back to srinkie dinks before my next shot this may be different on a straight test only cycle but nor19 shut down as most know is brutal, so i feel it was a waste of money for me, rather look into toremifene citrate for PCT it will do the same thing HCG does but better and its a fantastic alternative over nolva in PCT with nor19 as nolva can cause some issue and rebound in PCT from nor19 . also the potential gyno reversal and shut down toremifene has is amazing
Terephthalic Pt...Are you trying to bulk and cut at the same time? That's not going to work too well for you. Pick one or the other. Either bulk or cut. Don't try and cram both into one cycle.
Unless you're on Tren. With tren you can throw everything regular about steroids out the window, but I wouldn't advise going on tren. That shit is nasty stuff.
not at the same time mate, Im going to do bulk cycle first then after 4 months do the cut cycle thinking off throwing in hcg in this cycle too?
Terephthalic Pt...Oh shit, my bad. I read it all as one cycle. Didn't see the bulk and then the cut titles.
My bad. Yeah looks pretty good to me.
RustyhookerStats? Time between cycles? Prior cycles?
stats are -
age -25
height - 5' 11
weight - 190 pounds
bf - 9%
this would be my third cycle
Generally Deca-Durabolin will need to be administered for at least 8 weeks with 12 weeks being optimal and 16 weeks being safe and highly effective for most individuals