really all this advice and no previous cycle history.....bigjrock I know you, your better than this show these guys the history so they can help you more, I believe you to be more than qualified for tren but post up see what they say

It really depends on how you feel.

I started at test 250mg per week and tren 75mg ed.

1 week later bumped up to 375test 100 tren.
1 week later bumped up to 500 test 100 tren.

still no sides so I went with daily 100mg test injects and 100 tren daily.
Yet to see any sides. I have lost so much fat and stayed the same weight, strength is going up and I feel great. A little night sweats and that's It.

I feel like as long as your tren dose is a little higher then you should be fine. Example run test at 250-400 and tren 300-500. For my personal experience I like having the test a little higher than trt to keep my attitude and sex drive up. I like feeling on. on 250mg test I didn't feel on, I had zero sex drive.

I've been doing test prop 30mg/d (210mg week) and tren ace 50mg/d (350 week) everyday injections and I'm fucking good to go. This is my first time using tren... No roid rage, I actually feel calmer, no insomnia, I actually sleep better and get to bed earlier now (watch out for caber though, that shit gave me insomnia and mood swings at one dose of 0.5mg so I dropped it), no acne thus far, and lookin more jacked by the day so I feel pretty good. Just my $0.02. Good luck on your journey.

I have tried both ways and this is what i have concluded at least this is for me i find if you run your test low and tren high the tren sides are nothing, but when you run your test at the same as your tren i found i was a little fuller probly because of the estrogen and some water but the sides did increase so realy not to much of a advantage of running high test high tren like a said a little fuller but increase in sides

Here's the difference. If you run test higher than tren, you will probably get the same results. But you wil have an increase in side effects and you will essentially waste testosterone. Higher tren than test is recommended. A trt dose of test (200-250mg/ew) with about double tren. Depending on your level of experience of course. I don't know your cycle history but u assume you're asking to learn. The reason we use more tren than test is tren has a much higher binding affinity to the receptor. So you have all this extra test with no receptors to attach to. All that happens is it converts to estro and reeks havoc on your body. Waste of AI and test. There are a few threads on this topic if you use the search option.