posted Fri, 02/15/2013 - 07:58
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Prami dosing?
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I hate to bring up the prami caber debate again but I can't make my mind up on which to get. Caber is pretty simple to dose but I clueless on prami, I can't find a straight answer on dosing. So what do you all think prami? or should I just go with caber? The thing that is in my mind about caber is reading that it can effect heart valves.
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AnonI havent tried caber but I'm on 1mg prami every night right now and I like it. The perks of prami is it makes your drowsy and its been shown to release GH.
The cons of prami is that sometimes it can make you feel nauseous. Some people more than others.
I take prami 0.5mg daily. No sides either.
Extract from j223 (link provided below)
Pramipexole
Pramipexole also known as mirapex, is a dopamine agonist similar to Cabergoline. It raises dopamine levels which lowers prolactin levels. Pramipexole is actually more effective in terms of prolactin supression. Prami is also low cost. Prami has many benefits in addition to prolactin suppression. Prami has been shown to increase GH levels by up to 300% (in normal healthy men)for 2 hours after dosing. Prami is also safe to use long term. Unlike Caber which can cause Cardiac and noncardiac fibrotic reactions.
Dosing:
The most important thing to know about Prami is you NEED to SLOWLY increase your dose. As slow as possible means more gradual change and less side effects. If done correctly you can have a very small amount of side effects or none at all.
Starting dose is typically 0.25mg, but if possible try half of this dose. So first few days do 0.125mg, after that if you have little to no bad sides, increase to 0.25mg.
For prolactin supression, 0.25mg ed is usually plenty, but you can go all the way up to 0.5mg if necessary.
Another thing is Prami is usually taken right at night about 1 hour before bedtime. This is because it can cause lethargy, which isn't a problem while you are sleeping. To get the GH benefits, you need to dose higher in the 1-2 mg range.
Cabergoline
Cabergoline also known as dostinex or caber, is another dopamine agonist. It has a very long half life, so it can be taken once or twice a week. Unfortunately Caber can be expensive, but if you have the funds or if you get a good deal on it than it's worth it. Caber is also known to have low side effects in MOST people. (note caber is not stable in liquid form)
Dosing:
For your average cycle including test and about 400mg of deca, 0.25mg two times per week is usually enough to keep prolactin under control. If that is not enough you can bump up to three times per week or even 0.5mg two times per week. You really have to find what works for you but start low and adjust if necessary.
Give caber about 2-3 weeks to kick in before deciding the dosage needs to be changed.
How to control prolactin
Also bear in mind that you can use bromocriptine and letrozole.
http://www.eroids.com/og/intermediate-cycles/how-to-control-prolactin
Anon+1
BOOM - Nice write up
When it comes to everything involving gear I tend to over analyze everything.
AnonSame here. Better to over analyze things than to under analyze.
I read that last week thats why I'm second guessing myself. I was going to get caber but I can't make up my mind. So from a research company that has liquid caber, is not going to work since you said it is not stable in liquid form?
It depends if its a liquid suspension brother. With liquid suspensions, the raw powder is suspended in the liquid, not dissolved, so in that case the raw caber powder isn't harmed and will be stable and viable for use.
Also would I be right to assume that the chances of getting actual prami would be better? and that it would be stable in liquid form?
I used caber it was liquid. It worked for 2-3 weeks then it completely lost potency. It pretty much degraded to the point where it was doing nothing at all.
I started getting low libido and puffy nips once the caber did that. I had to order prami, and once I did it fixed everything up.
If you get caber it MUST be a pill, not research company. Prami from research companies is excellent though
you answered my question while I was typing it. Thanks bro! looks like prami it is