ideas on my diet & low budget cycle at the moment..any advice id be glad to take in
age: 24
height: 5'10
weight: 190
bodyfat: 12%
current diet consist of the following foods...egg whites (a couple egg yolks mixed in), plain oatmeal oats, 2% milk, chicken, ground turkey, 93/7 hamburger meat, occasional steak, brown rice, steamed broccoli, rice cakes, wheat pasta, greek yogurt, bananas..im currently taking flaxseed oil, BCAA's, multi-vitamin, B 12 complex, milk thistle, green tea extract, protein powder, glutamine, creatine. im getting nearly 250g protein, 350 carbs, 80-120g of fat, all equally spread out throughout my 6 meals (sometimes 8 depending on time upon wakening). Im also running Sustanon 800mg weekly & Tren Enanthate 400mg weekly (2nd shot is due next wed, been on 5 days now), only those compounds bc i had an extremely low budget to begin with due to bills, food ect; middle of next month ill finally have the money up to run a more decent stack of things. Im trying to gain the leanest weight i can without putting on too much bodyfat & damn do i wish i had some dbol to kickstart bc im a fan of the "instant" weight rain/results due to water retention then when i come off the long esters of my injectables will have kicked in, but until then i guess im going to have to wait a couple more weeks to start noticing decent results besides some increased sweating & my urine constantly being darker & foul, & its not due to lack of water bc im taking in a gal & 1/2 daily..any feedback would be great & would very much appreciate..thanks all!
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DEF. appreciate all this feedback, i always take in what people tell me, because you can never have too much information, especially when someone takes the time out of their day to give u advice, ect to help you see the best gains possible with little to no sides, idk what id do without u guys ha thanks again! after giving it some thought & looking at more forums online, with all yalls advice giving, some might come down on me for this lol, but i believe im going to go with 400mg test & 400-600 mg tren...sits a lot easier on me than keeping my test higher than the tren
Its all about what works for you brother i loke running them equal or tren maybe a tad higher
Klaydo if you dont mind shoot me a PM bro
scootertrampWondering how many completed cycles before you dig a deep tren hole for yourself?? I see no mentions of prior use, aromatase inhibitors, hcg, cycle length, or pct?
The cycle is always inexpensive compared to food but theres lots of quality food items that make it affordable.
i ran nolvadex, clomid, & HCG for pct...i know i ran each for 4 weeks nolva at 40mg per day & colmid at 50mg per day & not sure what the HCG was
scootertrampSwolepatrol has a pct outlined for you. Adding hcg after cycle or on post cycle therapy has down sides. The estradiol conversion is just one. You come off of a cycle that is of coyrse hard on the axis. Then you're on post cycle and add hcg which raises estrogen when in fact you should be simply recovering. So the use on cycle as needed has replaced the ten day blast. Hard cycles or very ling cycles are hard enough without fighting two evils. Yes, i can cite all this by medical reports but I'm honestly tired. I'd suggest that you drop the tren and avoid the hassle. After a dozen cycles and you're huge, we can build a full tren cycle that will work nicely.
SwolePatrole7Hcg should be during cycle weeks before starting pct, 500 iu split in 2 doses per week, you'll find this in cycle logs bud no worries. Also the protocol on nolva and clomid is :
Nolva: 40,40,20,20
Clomid: 100,100,50,50
scootertrampThis is the one! I think the poster should drop the tren til more advanced too. Nice addition
SwolePatrole7Couldnt agree more bro, he ran tren on his first 5 cycles though man lol..that was a mistake for sure, after running tren 5 times already idk what to tell him honestly, he needs help from the vets to sort this out and get set on the right track because i have no idea what to tell someone with these previous cycle stats. I think the first thing he should do is get bloods tested, post them for feedback, then start concocting a proper cycle...but seems he has his mind set and already started pinning so i will wish him
Good luck! If he needs any help he can PM
Me.
SwolePatrole7All of his cycles are listed below in the comments....
But yeah your right, i see no AI, PCT, HCG either...so X2 for that bro
SwolePatrole7You got your cycle ass backwards, cycle protocol on tren and test ratio is :
1:2 test to tren...
Normal cycle would be test 300 tren 600 a week..look through cycle logs under community tab..
Also where is your previous cycle stats? Id say your too young for tren for sure and im sure the vets will agree!
This is not a golden rule for everyone 2:1 tren to test is fucking horrible for me the key to finding the correct ratio FOR YOU is being experienced enough to listen to what your body is telling you this is how you find your sweet spot
thanks bro appreciate..i was in the army from 2007-2012 (all of my cycles were ran in there)..at the time consisted of dbol 50mg ED (wk 1-4), sus 500mg weekly (wk 1-16), EQ 600 wkly ( wk 1-16) & Tren A 100mg EOD (wk 1-6) total 16 weeks, ran the exact cycle 5 diff times...got up to 225-230 lbs, go hurt overseas & received a medical discharge..this is my first cycle back since early 2012..guess i was inexperienced at the time & go misinformed on the tren/test ratio & you could say it stuck with me
SwolePatrole7Yeah, deca is 2:1 test to deca
Tren is 1:2 test to tren
Just look at the cycle logs like i said, they have great info and read the comments left by the vets and you will learn fast bro
Up until the last year or so it was advised to run 2:1 test to tren.The times are changing.I ran a cycle this past summer of 700mg tren a and 350mg test prop.It was a great cycle.It was so good I decided to try a 1:2 test to npp.This cycle is going very well.I wouldn't recommend this to people that have to do a pct,because of the shutdown,but if your blasting and cruising I don't feel it matters.
SwolePatrole7I see, i was just advising him on the new and current protocol of how 19-nor compounds should be ran in ratio with testosterone, personally i have zero experience with any 19-nors because I am too young and i get great results with test and eq, im gonna wait a long while before i hit the tren train but the npp w/ prop sounds like something i may be interested in dojng in the next 6 months ;)
You gave solid advice bro.I think it's a good idea to wait on the tren. I did finaplix about 20 years ago and all I can remember is how pissed off I would get at times.When I did tren a this summer I didn't notice any added anger.I don't know if it was because of the lower test dose or because I've mellowed with age.Either way it was nice.
SwolePatrole7Thanks man, i spend too much time on eroids haha, i just love to learn i guess. You can never have too much knowledge on AAS!
When I started,knowledge of proper protocols was limited.I knew nothing about aromatase inhibitors.My pct was a single 5000iu shot of hcg.I like the information that can be found on eroids and google.
def glad i had this brought to my attention early, considering ive only had 1 shot, next week def taking ur advice along with the other that i read in the forums & switching my dosages up..quick question im not ordering again until feb 20th & have 8ml left of tren 200 and 8ml of sus 400 left..what would be the smartest dosages to run to get me close to 3-4 more weeks of injections (last me until my next order gets in) if you dont mind me asking
SwolePatrole7Honestly id run the tren at 800 and sus at 400, split doses twice a week..you dont have enough gear for that obviously, if i was you i would order NOW and not wait bro!!! I have a great source that makes sus 400 and tren 200 that you can order from with a minimum order of only 75$ so that would work out great for you, scoop up a lil money and make an order NOW! If u want source add me as a friend and private message me.