posted Sun, 01/27/2013 - 10:56
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+ 2 First Cycle and PCT - Tren Ace Test Prop
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Hey y'all. First AAS cycle. I'd like some opinions / advice.
First some stats:
Age: 21
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 200lbs
BF: 8%
Bench IRM: 330lbs
Squat IRM: 325lbs
Deadlift IRM: 415lbs
8 week cycle
Tren Ace 75mg EOD
Test Prop 100mg EOD
PCT
40mg Nolvadex EOD
250iu HCG Twice a week
Already have my pins and swabs.
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Do not do tren bro til ur way more experienced I learnt the hard way on my 5 th cycle I was pinnin tri tren 180 e3d 2months in I had a little argument with my mum smashed front windows of her house then took a wooden stool to her merc Benz and u can guess wat happened along with that scratched cunt in d side of the car, then 2wks later had a few drinks with my girl n best mates for my gf bday I usually never drink on gear but under all d circumstances at d time I decided to but me n d girl had a stupid argument and it ended up with me jumping through the windscreen an on coming taxi and ended up in hand cuffs. Luckily I got away with everything and have great supportive gf, family and friends I could of lost everything, after that incident I ditched the tren and won't b doin it again any time soon the stuff can make ya a ticking time bomb.
Just wanna give ya sum advice
Any way enuf of my shit
Holy shit man you have had some experiences. Lol thats one of the big reasons im staying away from it, I've got a temper to begin with. Thanks for the heads up, no worries though, im doing a Test E cycle with a Test P kicker and taper. Simple stuff, best way to start.
Its great that you guys all look after us newbies
Glad your listening bro thats awsome.. And you can make awsome gains with test only cycles.. My first test cycle i gained 28 pounds.. And still to this day i run test only cycles cause you dont need much else and still gain 17-20 pounds. Especially if your not competing cause its really all in your diet.. Good luck my man at least you have an open mind. +1 for that.
Thanks man. Yup on a Test E cycle right now, ill be posting it in a couple days. Looking forward to those gainS!!!!!
Thanks all, here to learn.
CleyonWoo Hoo! A newb who doesn't mind being corrected. Right now you could knock me over with feather! Good job taking the advice. BTW, if everything is in order on your diet, training, sleep, ect. a Test only cycle will give you some BIG gains!
Do not do this cycle bro, first cycle should always be a 12 week test only!!! Tren is for guys who have done at least 6-7 cycles
So after doing some more research I realize how laughable this post looks...
It's all good bro. Everyone here is just looking out for you. Lord knows I've done some pretty comical shit when it comes to gear, mostly when I was around your age. We just don't want to see you make the same mistakes many of us have. Eroids is an absolute savior for guys like you. If I had resources readily available like this when I was younger, I probably wouldn't be on TRT for the rest of my life. Keep reading everything you can and good luck homey.
Anonyou're coming around.
YES it does ... thats why i kept out till now to see if you had a brain or not lol
So I should get some clomed and adex and get my doses right for my PCT and lower my doses for tren and test and equalize them, and I probably don't need HCG.
Better?
AnonNo sir. You should drop the tren all together. Take the time to learn about AIs and PCT. Irish has a group that is dedicated specifically to PCT. you'll need both AI and PCT compounds and more than is needed for your cycle. As for the cycle, test only for now brother. Lets take the time to learn the most basic compound and cycle and how you respond to it. From there, we can start progressin to the next level. Join my group. There is perfect cycle in there for you with test enanthate and prop taper.
I'd much rather see you wait a couple years bc you're still so younge. But seeing you leaning so hard towards tren this soon, I'd rather see you get the right advice then go it solo and do it wrong.
AnonYea hed be better waiting atleast a few years of hard training and diet tweaking ....and researching during those years the way AAS works and all possibilities of sides would be the ideal thing to do....educate yourself. On what ur about to put in your.body..but anyway so few do this so if the frog must jump....guess we will be here to assist
Anonhttp://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/beginner-cycle-w-taper
Thanks!
I'm on that beginner cycle right now, started out at 215 17% bf, I'm at 228 after 8 weeks and dropped 3% and I had to take time off dealing with injuries. You won't be disappointed. Just play it safe.
Thanks ppl, obviously i got some more reading to do.
Yeah that's a nice 10th cycle when you're about 30. Big no no here brother. You're gonna bite off way more than you can chew. You get a few weeks in on the tren, next thing you know you get pissed off at your girl. A normal argument turns into an all out rager ending with you in handcuffs and your girl blowing your friends as pay back. I've seen it a hundred times. Keep dieting and lifting hard for the next few years, then start thinking about your first cycle. You're probably gonna run this cycle anyways but at least I got my 2 cents in.
He ain't joking either. The number of relationships that get destroyed by tren uis nobody's business. My wife told me I was an arsehole (again) this afternoon. Funny how often she says that whilst I'm on tren....
You're way too young at 21, wait a few years.
haha gf blowing friends as payback!! lol funny shit
UPnSMOKEShort n sweet...... "Don't!"
Anona lot of variations of good advice and constructive criticism below. hope you're keeping an open mind and are willing to follow.
Yep thanks
AnonWhy is it that so many ppl want to run tren first cycle.....my god thats a huge mistake
I mean really....u have no clue what could happen....
We've talked, you know I'm a tren fan with a lot of experience. I'm actually having a hard time with this cycle right now because of the sides. You just never know with tren.
(Tren's) a hell of a drug---Rick James
AnonYour right we both have run it and no youngster should Ever run it.....its for the advanced with high tolerance imo
I asked my wife what she thought if I had ran tren at age 21. She gave me a death look lol. Said she would have killed me. My response was "no I probably would have killed you and everyone around me". There's so many variables with that compound. Blast test e for 10 weeks and you pretty much know what to expect. When I start a tren cycle, it's like am I gonna sleep any this time? Am I gonna drag someone out of their car for pulling out in front of me? Takes an aggressive man and makes him nuts sometimes.
zyzz prlly =/
AnonLol....i didnt catch that?
He was a fitness model, just search him on youtube.. A lot of the younger crowd wants to look like him and he was open with the fact he used very high doses of tren to get where he was BUT he's also dead
Dead from drug abuse. How many people die from just steroids..
I highly doubt steroids did not play a role in his death considering he had a heart problem.. I would say the drugs and steroids did it tbh.. As much as I love to say steroids won't kill you if used safely
AnonWell i guess he.must ask himself if its worth it....ppl under estimate a good test cyp cycle with proviron added can give a good quality physique
AnonAnd the pct eod......its all wrong go back to.scratch and see me for a real.first cycle but honestly your too damn young rite now bro and u obviously have done no homework
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hahahahaha I was thinking that two when I saw the title lmfao
New2roidLol tren on the first cycle
go to the group's section and join dossiers group called beginners cycles. there's some great stuff for guys new to the game. read all the threads in there. good stuff.....
lol i dont even no where to start
You need to do some more research... HCG is used during cycle to stop testicular shrinkage not for PCT unless you need to blast before pct.. PCT is clomid nolva dosed every day.. clomid dosed every 12 hours at that.. Tren A is pinned ED and hell no at your age unless you would like to be on TRT early.. Do you know what 19nors are? You need a prolactin inhibitor unless you want super soaker tits by the end of this run.. Seriously you could breast feed... On that note you need an AI especially with tren considering more test will convert to estro
AnonNo ancillaries for estrogen or prolactin? Check.
Running the tren high? Check.
PCT is missing clomid and proper doses? Check.
Test higher than tren? Check.
Everything about this cycle has a problem.
Run a test cycle. I'm the same height and I put on almost 40lbs in 12 weeks on 500mg test e a week. No need for tren. Straight up. It will not benefit you at this point. Tren makes or breaks people. Its a VERY harsh drug, its not rainbows and butterflies, this shit is tren.
Do your research. If you run into this shit all reckless thinking you're half-ass research is enough then the possibility of fucking your balls up is very real. You're talking to someone who did and I'm your age.
you say your the same age then you should not be giving advice yet along running gear read the thread about giving advice in the fourms
I wouldn't recommend this cycle as a first. You will end up with tits leaking milk, acne, anger issues, zero libido, lethargy, and erectile disfunction plus many others. Why? Because you are not using any ancillaries. You are running test higher than tren which will cause estrogen issues especially without an AI. If you do not know what an AI is you have no business running steroids.
By the way first cycle is supposed to be injectible testosterone enanthate as the only steroid. Run it at 500mg for 12 weeks.
Running tren you must use cabergoline or prami. If you do not you WILL have erectile disfunction and will not be able to get it up. Prolactin levels are raised when running tren. NO AI NO CABER = FAIL CYCLE
I went ahead and took that point someone gave you away. Per giving advice in forums, at 22 do you think you are actually qualified to give this other kid advice? Recommending he read more and run test is one thing, but your scare tactic about tren has no place. Have you run tren before? Because according to you you have no business running it either and if you havent what information are you qualified to share? You are parroting, and not even parroting fact, you are speaking nonsense. Please explain to me why I've never once had to run caber on tren before, yet I've never lactated, I get no more acne, if not less than running high dose
test, ED? Lol kk.. I can handle my business 4 times a day without issue. Sometimes you just really can't speak about things you have no idea about because you sound ridiculous to people who do know..
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again read the thread about giving advice in the fourms you guys have not been here long enough to know this board does not condone the usage of gear at that age and will not give steriod advice to people this young i know you guiys want points but this is not the way of doing it at 21 you have so much nat test why would you want to run a cycle
I HAVE been here on eroids for over a YEAR. I have been researching steroids for years and I have a couple cycles under my belt so it's not like the stuff I was telling him was incorrect. I know its not advised to run cycles until mid 20's however I'm just concerned about the OP and was trying to warn him of the consequences.
Anyways he is trying to run tren his first cycle If I told him wait till you are 25 do you ACTUALLY believe the op is going to say "sure I'll just wait till im 25" NO not gonna happen. The least we can do here is to get him to not use tren.
was not trying to be a dick just there are way to many young people comming on here talking about running this and that and i just dont want to see people get hurt
Per stats I x1000 what j said.