posted Wed, 01/16/2013 - 07:16
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PCT - How bad does it really suck!?
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So... i expect a decline in strength some energy loss etc but...DAMN! i am feeling like absolute dog shit. any tips for energy levels and getting that overall sense of well being back during pct? i have some of the original jackd for my preworkout so i still can kill it in the gym but this feeling during the day sucks
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hey bro I added tritroplein and hgh to my pct this month for the first time and i feel great. THe first 4-5 days sucks but after that this the best pct i have ever had! energy, sense of well being, strength all great
Hgh will be in my next one...wanted to in this one but determined I wasn't ready. I'm 4 days in so hopefully ill start picking back up
Coffee and dont jam too hard in the gym. Pct is catabolic til test gets up. Forums-so i cycled, now what by Gothic. Good read. Coffee and energetic music. Don't watch chick flick with the gf.....it's horrible. Lol
Will def stay away from any sort of emotional movie, wife would wonder what happened to me. Goths post is a good read, I adjusted my workout based on his advice. Trying to go ez in the gym but I still feel great there
AnonCant remember who posted it but they hit it right on the head when they said " PCT sucks balls " Chin up bud it will be over soon. Im 3 weeks in and yup it sucks balls lol.
I usually feel the exact same thing, but then i tweaked my PCT dosage protocol. I found that this helped me with my mood swings;
Here's when I dose;
-AI's > Aromasin: In the Morning
-PCT > Clomid: Throughout the day
-PCT > Nolva: At Night
Why:
Free testosterone has reached a peak in the late morning until around mid-day when the sun has risen, this is why you wake up with 'morning wood'); so to capitalise upon the daily peaks in your free testosterone, I dose my aromasin in the morning. This will prevent any peaks in my estrogen throughout the day (since its half life is ~27 hours) and it will also further increase the amount of free testosterone in my system, since aromasin removes the binded testosterone from your sex hormone binging globulin (SHBG).
I dose my clomid throughout the day, because clomid is highly surpressive, it gets me emotional if i take a high dose all at once. Also i want to keep my blood levels as stable as possible to prevent any further sides.
My nolvadex dose is taken before i go to bed at night, since this is when estrogen is peaked in the human body. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, so while im sleeping, the estrogen is under control, which also aids my testosterone peaks the next morning.
Thanks p! Gonna adjust my dosing schedule
Go for it brother, I found it helped me a lot and i hope my explanation helps you to understand why i did that protocol as opposed to me saying 'do this' without any explanation - this way we all can prosper.
Makes absolute sense! I was splitting it morning and night but gonna change it up
Im using this style too! Thank you bud...borrowed it.
Your welcome
You shuld take off your first week of pct from the gym will help with recovery a bit
I disagree and I've never heard that, if you look he says he's doing low weight and that's good. Taking a week off will hurt mentally
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/ive-just-finished...
never heard that read some old threads threads buy some of the vets goth wrote up one talking about taking time off during pct
ouch! really? now im just depressed and demoralized. took 3 days off while waiting to get to pct but i guess thats not enough?
Plenty of coffee and this is when the mental toughness comes into play. I like to take Echinacea that takes the edge off but proper PCT should have you back to normal in no time
thanks miggy, switched from coffee to green tea a couple of months ago...looks like i should be switching back
Jack3d sucks..and you shouldn't be killing it in the gym just yet..it does suck but friend/pm sgt and he gave me an herbal site that gave me some awesome aphrodisiac herbs that got me back in no time. What's your pct right now?
fortunately i dont have libido issues, just feel like im dragging ass all day. pct is standard clomid 100/100/50/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20/20,dhea and looks like ill be adding in creatine. by killing it i mean still getting a good workout, switched to high reps and about 60% weight
Oh ok perfect, if it's early you could order some aro, if you friend and pm me ill give you a legitimate domestic "research" source to get some super potent aro. That would help..otherwise stick it out bro, I hate pct....
thanks brother! gonna ride this one w/o the aromasin but still sending pm to find out where. actually in pct 2 weeks earlier than planned but decided i needed the extra recovery time before my next cycle
AnonIm about to start pct in a couple of days...definitely not looking forward to it
it sure beats crusing brother
Creatine helps in pct
thanks brotha!
samick94Only thing i can say is stop taking that jack3d... it is trash. it has a high concentration of 1-3 dymethyl. this closes viens and restricts blood to flow properly. it also breaks down and destrys muscles fibers.. do you want this on top of not using gear? find a pre workout that is 1-3 free. i would suggest something like dr. jekyll.
never heard of the breaking down of muscle fibers before...how does it happen? i do take arginine and another nitric oxide supplement so i havnt fallen victim to the vaso restriction...yet
samick94look up 1-3 dimethylamylamine... it is not the nitric oxide or l-arginine that is harmful it is the 1-3 dimethyl. it has a whole slue of bad sides. amongst them is ED. you ever try to fuck after taking jack3d?
ill check it out, thanks man...love the rush tho. and have no problem with sex, even within an hour or so of taking it
samick94thats good then. but at least be informed on whats in it. i know so many people who said they couldnt get it up and i asked them what they were taking. 9 times out of 10 once they stopped the jack3d they had no issues
thank god i dont have that problem!