posted Mon, 08/20/2012 - 16:21
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input of dosage of test prop+var
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Just looking for input on the dosage amount for my body type.
Age- 26
Height- 6' 2.5"
Weight- 200 lb
BF- 13%
cycle-
week 1-8 (100mg Test Prop EOD)
week 3-8 (50mg Anavar ED)
looking to get stronger and have great endurance. So i workout and run. Adding some weight and geting more cut would be nice (not sacrificing enurance). Perfer not to be adding a bunch of other option, mostly looking at the dosage. Thnx!
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If this cycle is started already then I would just drop the var. It will suck being a pin cushion your 1st run and PIP will suck. At least it would be 1 compound and test. Test E or C would be better. You run 1 compound at a time so you know how your body will react to each compounds. Also you better have a AI and PCT ready. If you do not know what AI and PCT is then you better find out fast.
why does everyone say test e would be better to start with? I dont want the extra water, but i know what you saying about the PIP. but ill deal with it
Its easier . As far as water gain I dont think there is a difference. On a short cycle prop is the way to go. Long cycle I would use test E. I think it would have been better to break in your muscles with something other than prop like test E. Pip can get real bad.
zewiIMO you would have been better off with
1-12 Test E @ 500mg
12-15 Test P @ 100mg EOD
10-15 Anavar @ 50mg ED
And if it your first cycle it should have just been
1-12 Test E or C @ 500mg
4 week taper with one week overlapping test e?
zewionly to lean out and get rid of the water since adding anvar. its a way to cut up at the end. you should try it.
var adds a lot of water?
zewii meant to say this, i was editing it and you posted...
its a quick lean at the end get on test p with anavar and it works. get ride of the excess of test e keep levels high and your good. I see you point 2 weeks cross is good. But you really are doing 2 weeks cause test e as 15 day half life. either way works.
NO ANAVAR HAS NO WATER
ima try it next time out
Anonoh if this is first cycle you should be running test e or c only for like 12 weeks with ai on hand and propper pct ready to go. clomid and nolv standerd pct. first few at least first two should be all test .
Anonbro anavar will not increase endurance dude it will increase strength deff , but from what ive seen most abd including anavar make people lethargic straigh tired but you push threw if you want some indurance fuck with nandrolone phenylpropionate bro. I even hear masteron increases endurance but can not vouch for it cuz im not on it yet I will be soon though
ill look into that
dont. not for this one.
StevebI read Creatine enhances Anavar
my bad, im also taking creatine, whey protien(amino acids), glutamine, and a pre-workout
id run the prop 150 eod. 75 ed for best results. keeps levels stable. var id never go under 60. 80-100 for me. love this cycle. whats your cycle history?
Didnt want to say, but this is my First injectable. Done an Oral before, but way too much water gains and my endurance was shot. I need to keep good endurace, i do MMA and military training. Im already at week one of test prop, think i should up it to 75ed for 1st run?
ok. you dont not do oral only because of bloat. you dont do oral only because your balls dont work afterwards. first cycle should be long ester. test e 500 mg week split into 2. no anavar. we only do one new compound at a time here. so your body sees if it getting bad sides. if you get bad sides and your running 2 new compounds you wont be able to source the issue. prop isnt recommended for first cycle because pinning technique had not been developed. 12 week test e. proper pct to follow. do you know about pct? ai on hand. i run mine from the start. armosin 12.5 eod.
also, ive research how to pin(also watched videos and seen proper placement and check for blood before injecting, etc.)Only other way to get better with technique is to do it. Not arguing with you at all (u seem to have more experience then me), just commenting.
bro. my first cycle was var and prop. its a great cycle. but pinning eod and especially ed will get to you. take word from someone thats done it. do long ester your first time out. also, prop has more sides.
i know what you mean.. 1 week and nipples are getting hairy(i dont grow much hair either), skin slightly oily, and injection site is sore a shit! lol. How did the first cycle of this turn out for you? Thanks for the concern but ive already bought and started. Im using prop because i wanted less water retained.
lol your already on it. ok. guess all i can do is minimize the damage. are you running an ai? and how many injection sites are you rotating?
only at week one of test-prop. So four injections(EOD) 2 on each cheeck. Probably going to move to thigh tomorrow. Wasnt going to run the var for another week or 2.
bro you need at least 6 sites for prop. i like to leave 5-6 days between hitting a spot again. THIS IS WHY I SAID DONT RUN PROP. YOU DONT HAVE TECHNIQUE DOWN. YOUR GOING TO HURT YOURSELF. i hit cheek cheek delt pec pec delt repeat. get at least 4 more sites your comfortable with and rotate.
zewii agree should have just done a test e cycle.
ok cool. Ill try your pin technique. Is the main reason to rotate for prop because of sorness?
Try triceps too.I use my quads but hit a quad that is a virgin with prop and you might have trouble walking for few days.
zewithat and oil build up.
Ya, i know i just kind of jumped into the first cycle with the orals. Had some friends doing it so i thought i would do it.... dumb i know(i was younger). I researched way more this time. From what ive been seeing the PCT is for after cycle. Around 3 days after pin(Clomid/Nolva).
pct is clomid 100 100 50 50. nolva 40 40 20 20. 3 days after last pin with prop. 15 days after last pin with e.
Stevebx2