Missed this post over weekend due to being at the show!!

Train is on the money here i have the same thought with the length of use with tren E and also has he states we both have the same usage for a/bombs only on training days never run it ED like d/bol this is the safest way to get the best effect from that compound and also the method most pro,s use,i think he as said consider using anavar at the end meaning if you monitor BF% you must eat clean and getting the correct ratio of protein down will be tough but these are the keys to gaining substantial quality lean mass he as worked that out from the principle of 2.2 grams pr lb of bodyweight you are now,as you gain you must recalculate this figure to weekly to maintain the growth process throughout this cycle..good luck bro enjoy.

P.S taking in this optimal protein ratio will burn fat also due to the body working harder to assimilate it your metabolism will naturally rise giving you more fat melting ability.

IMO. Considering that this is a bulking cycle
drop the sus350 and use test e
750-1000mg/wk 14wks
Anapolon 50mg 3-4weeks (1-2 hours pre workout on training days)
Drop the tren e if you dont plan on using it for atleast 12wks.
Drop the winny completely as this will not help you bulk or mass
prop 150mg/eod wk 11-14
Consider the use of anavar 100mg/day for the last 6weeks for more quality mass

increase calories, increase protein to 500g+ day and do some cardio
Dont pig out, eat clean, sleep heaps and train hard

Drop the winny bro, at 15-17% bf it ain't going to do you any good. Unless you can get that bf down into the single digits you'll get no benefit from winny in fact you might be back calling it bunk.

thers a few things that I would tweak! first thing I notice is the tren, I would run it till week 10, its a long ester and the way you have it you really will only be running it for 4 weeks. also I would pin the tren 2wice a week for more stable blood levels. The next thing I would consider is running a test that is more stable such as e/c, due to the fact that test increases alot of the tren sides and tren sides are minimized through stable blood levels, sust unless pinned EOD is the most unstable test of all of them. Anapolon, personally if I was gonna try and cut at the end of a bulk cycle then I would run it my cycle much longer and get a good bulk and then the time needed to cut that bulk, in my opinion your not gonna want the water weight and bulkiness of this compound, I would recommend T-bol. next is the winny, 3 weeks dont seem long enough for the compound to really work, I would suggest the last 5 weeks and thats only if your body fat is lower than 11%. Now you say you want a bulking and mass cycle so im not sure why your throwing in winny anyways. Your tren dosage is right but your test I wouldnt go that high, if it where me my max test-e/c dose would be 750mg/w and as girl said my minimal would be down around 100mg/w, really it can be ran either way depending on sides and preference.

test dose looks high. receptors should be flooded at just 750mg/week.