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All the steroids in the world cannot help those with less than good genetics. So guys like me wouldn't ever dare to step on stage to compete only to have my calves ridiculed and laughed off the stage.
For me there is absolutely no remotely responsible reason to run 1,000mgs of Tren, 10iu's of HGH, 2,000mgs of Test and stack insulin on top of the other incomprehensible amounts of steroids and "cutting" compounds these guys use for their goal to compete.
Being somewhat sensible I asked a Pro at the gym about the mgs and compounds I am taking.
Test C 200mgs E4D
Test P 100mgs EOD
Tren A 100mgs EOD
Mast P 100mgs EOD
This the heaviest cycle I have done: 1,400mgs/ week.
This guy laughed and said he runs 5,000mgs of oil another 1,000 orals, 10iu's HGH and of course insulin several times a year and never comes off.
He has been in the hospital twice with kidney issues in the last 5 years. He has defined his goal to compete on the Pro Circuit regardless the cost. Although this dude has "IT" from calves to traps and is amazing in symmetry, proportion and development I feel sorry for him, his kids and wife. He is one of nicest guys and represents BB's (socially and on the surface) as humble nice people.
His dark side is scary and terminal.
Define your goals and be real. I still feel 1,400mgs is over the top and admit the next three weeks at this dosage just for some pics may be dumb and reckless and at best isn't wise or healthy.
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Bro, couldn't agree more... I have been blessed with Gilberts Syndrome... its a rare hereditary issue that hits 3% of the population... heightens RBC with no negative symptoms and you'd never know you'd had it unless you were tested for it... I found out on a random blood test about... makes alot of sense, I have two cousins who were BOTH Mr. Teen USA (natty, of course)
So, genetics are by far the BEST thing you can have going for you.... all the juice, dieting, and discipline won't help you if the Spartans would have thrown you off a cliff when you were born (LOL)
AnonLucky.. God obviously wants you to take this AAS train.
AnonI feel as if you're incorporating tren, you wouldn't want to go much higher than 1400.. just sad, people think the more, the better
1400mg is insane bro, i have ran up to 400mg and believe me it wasn't fun. 300mg seems to be the sweet spot for me.
AnonIn my opinion I wouldn't even go that high on tren, but thats me personally.. I was using 1400 as an overall figure adding in test and everything. .But I love the overall message of this post.. people trying to run a total of 5000mg/week -- I couldn't have said it any better than he did..
I agree, there is a huge misconception that the higher the dose the bigger you get. If you aint got the genetics it aint going to matter how much gear you pump in.
Anonyou're dead on.. diet + respectable doses + proper training = success.
The bodybuilders of today have given people the misconception that they'll ever be able to become that massive.. genetics are a key. Instead, now we have people aiming for the moon with every new cycle.
OE2000Thank you!
Anon350mgs works for me....lol
Anonagreed. no need trying to add 130 pounds of muscle on each cycle ;)
It sad that people get to this point. I want to walk on stage once in my life but I won't put myself into this unhealthy state. But the way society views "muscles" roids are the quick way for a moron to get them. They just don't understand what they are really doing to their bodies. Sad sad
double post sorry
the most ive done is 500mg test e, 400 mg test prop and about 300mg of tren acetate a week the bad thing is it was my first cycle and had bad sides from tren.. i dont think ill ever go over 1500mg of oils just cause the sides
AnonTren is a MFer'!!
AnonI am on alert anyway. I am 48 and for my cycle experience it is moderate, but for my age increases the risks.
Have you already stopped taking orals for good?
AnonI was going to stop at 50 but 48 is close enough for me. So yes I am done with orals.
AnonI am in serious question to my current mgs which prompted this posting. I can always drop back to Test only at anytime.
mazarI runned a stupid cycle on 1.75g (+420mg orals) of gear and only thing i found out is the more anabolic you become the more catabolic you will end up when ceasing the gear. Yes the results where good or whaterver but hey my next cycle is going to be 800mg of oil and 280mg of orals and thats like a maximum. That guy in your gym has a deathwish. Good point on the genetics though give me 5g of gear and i will still look like shit like your gym buddy. Some just dont have the genetics the sooner you accept it the better it is. The stupid cycle i run was cause i am becoming 30 and i am in a midlife crisis never again thats for sure, i will turn to smack if i hit another crisis much more productive/safe
AnonAround 1g and doing everything else right is where it's at. I may drop the Tren and just shred down a few more pounds and keep around the 1g mark.
TxBigBoyI feel sorry for people like that, maybe one day he will meet his goal and compete at the level he wants but I doubt he will be able to enjoy it. But if that one moment of glory is more important to him than growing old and watching his children grow then so be it.
AnonBe allot easier if the guy was an ass hole.