Implemeting Tren into my Current Cycle Thoughts.....
37 years old..
5'9" 182lbs
On TRT 200MGS A WEEK ON CRUISE...
I have only used testosterone in my 19 years of cycles, reason being is Test quite simply works for me (until just recently tren@75mgs eod) for the last five weeks of this blast. Got the tren too check the hype :)!! I have been running Watson Test cyp @500mgs for the last nine weeks on a cut (clean food,high rep,cardio) cycle. I went in a little high at the beginning of this cycle in the way of bodyfat. Recomp is what my goal is on this cycle and so far am impressed. Only three pounds of weight gain but my bodyfat has dropped dramatically.
If anyone has any input on the tren for me as a first time user feel to comment.
How do you guys feel about how many millgrams I am taking?
What are your thoughts on adding something for sides and if so what?
I have some AI'S on hand.
Thanks for any input you may have.
P.S. I know I know I know. I went straight to TREN!!! And yep I was out of shape and chunky as well. To chunky to be running it I am sure...I have heard all this.
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Bro everything has been covered, but im gonna reinterate one thing that was said down at the bottom. PIN ED, it will make a big difference...With that being said your dosage in my opinion is spot on, I was running 25mg/d, it was great, bumped it to 50mg/d it sucked, dropped to 35mg/d my sweet spot...Tread said the most important thing and that is abuse! Its a motherfucking BEAST when you do, trust me I know. keep it simple and you wont even know your on it other than the recomp...Goodluck
Anonbest off trying to assess how the sides hit you.. at least with a short ester its easier to stop or change up
Anonim not sure if you guys have really read the info above
I vote NO on the tren. Reagrdless of age, the only compound he has used is Test.. so now an appropriate second cycle includes tren? any one else agree?
AnonI would agree with OJ.. not the compound I would recommend to start out with when adding to a cycle and having no experience with any other compounds.. I am not a fan of tren for many reasons...
tread-mMost of your reasons are abuse related! Lol. Tren is like Ibuprofin, it can be used or abused, unfortunitely the latter is the standard. I usually steer people away from it though as you do because most I see talking or asking about it have abusive habits or personalities, such as mine. This person displays none of those characteristics and is relatively stable...relative being relative given where we are having this conversation.... : ). I agree with your thinking on it in general though.
Anonand ibuprofin can kill you..;-)
So can water if you drink to much of it. I appreciate once again your input. If I have horrible sides I will cease usage. I wanted body recomp in this cycle. It's the best thing in my opinion for that.
Anonthat comment was more for tread than anything else.. anything taken to extremes can kill you . you asked for an opinion and I gave one..not offended in the least that you did not take it ;-)
tread-mYes it can, so he can't take it either? No seriously, I would agree with you 99.999% of the time but after 19 years of cycles and adding one compound in a responsible way is not blowing my mind. 1000 other people could put up this same post and I would say no to Tren. I know "people" who ran it in their first year and neither you or I could stop them!! Lol
Once again thanks for your input. Here is an update.I actually dropped to 50mgs EOD. I feel it is perfect for me. I was feeling real anxiuos,crazy dreams,out of breath and sweating like crazy. The 50mgs seems to be spot on. Still a little hot,slightly anxious and no more dreams and sleep well. I inject an hour before bed it works well. This tren it seems is dosed properly as I have not used tren and have nothing to compare it to. I am seeing and feeling results. I felt crazy in the gym this morning. I spent 20 minutes in the sauna to get a good sweat. Then proceeded to do bi's. I was dripping in complete animal mode and could care less what anyone was thinking. The pump was out of this world. Last burn out reps I was spitting sweat on the floor and could care less and I am no disresepcful kind of dude normally. If I would of been in the garage at the house by myself who knows how I would of acted. By the way I am now one week in. Thanks for all of your input as well as others who posted here as well. I may decrease even more to see if there is that fine line of same wanted effect(muscle less fat) without any sides at all. I will keep updated. I think I will begin if doing so by dropping .5 at a time so going from .50 to say .45 and so on...
Switched to the 50mgs. I will post as to how it is treating me.Thanks for the input.
Wow bro your points are headed back into the right direction. 51 since zero yesterday and god knows you could be at 300 by the end of the day today. Yes I decided being that its hard work to recomp your body natural and shit that I would use a little Tren Ace to see what happens. I did however decide to go with a short ester (you know the acetate version) that way if there were sides I could correct them or even discontinue use. I been at this a long while and never used another compound because test works. Shit this may be the only time I ever use tren. But your point above is well listened to however not considered.
Anonyour post makes me smile bro.. With your age, and knowledge-as tread said, I'm sure you'll be good. Its refreshing to see just two compounds instead of 5 or 6.. I'm sure you'll fair well, agreed on the choice with the short ester.. I think you'll be better off this way. +2 for ya man
tread-mNo OJ I tend to agree other than he is 37 years old and has been running test for years so I just felt the need to maybe slow it down a bit. He's not one of these kids on here though and yes I'd push him to 3 or 4 other compounds but he's a grown man and I figure he will do what he will do and think it through. At least its not 4 compounds and adding one after so many years of gear he can at least evaluate it properly witbhout wondering whats doing what. I will usually push anyone away from tren though unless its low dose no matter what the experience...high dose is gonna F with you and theres no reason to have that happen unless you just like getting Fed with! Lol
Slowing it a down is the right call. Amazing when you start to times Tren by 3. It becomes a lot of a heavy duty compound quick.
Anonvery agreeable. I hate to see people jumping to multiple compounds and not thinking shit through. He has age on his hand, and as you said, it seems adding 1 compound is in range.. I'm not a tren guy so I'm not gonna put any input forth. all you brother
Also, if you're using tren ace, shoot it every day. A lot of the sides seem to be triggered by fluctuating blood levels and can therefore be reduced by shooting every day to keep them stable. If you want to shoot 75mg eod, shoot 37.5 ed instead.
Just my two cents. Good luck.
JtizzleMy two cents.. like the guys said.. start with 25-35mg and ramp up slowly (of at all).. stay on lots of water.. and listen to ur body, i'm droppin tren out of my cycle a week early this time..
Thanks jtizzle my bizzle....
Jtizzleanytime bro , feel free to PM me anytime..
tread-mAgree with BB...go over to "Anabolic Steroids" and read the Tren sticky if you have not already. Good little read but I like the 50 eod BB poses. Sides are the result of a lack of cardio or poor diet or too many mg's of a compound or any combination or all. When you dial in the important parts of building the compounds really do mean less even if needed to achieve. Too much focus on them VS the real work is a mistake we often make so step out and take a good look at whats going on once in a while brother.
Thats why I put this up here by the way. Was to get some input. I will go the 50mgs every other day. I think I will listen for a while brother. see what happens. that fuckin monkey always gotta be right....
That dosage is a bit high for a first timer. I would recommend 25ml eod or at the most 50ml. You should also get some caber or prami to help fight of any prolactin issues.
Pretty sure you meant mgs there not mls, but I won't bag you too much for it. I use tren e and like to keep steady levels that way especially if your using long ester test. Just my .02
Yeah i meant mgs, its been cleard up already type-o
Okay you trying to kill me bro. Nah I am a hard headed mother fucker but I aint stupid. oh wait is that the same thing?
Lol be Careful with that Tren bro the gains are amazing but the sides are second to none. I just finished pinning mine and let me tell you I am not lookin forward to what's coming.
I am dropping to 50mgs every other day. There are conflicting reports even in here all over the place. That is why I posted I also hear of pinning daily with less sides. So say like 25mgs daily.
Yeah there is a mod on her who swear's by 25mgs.
My first pin was friday night. Nothing insane as of yet done 2 pins@75mgs. My urine smells like cow piss( i drink 1-2 gallons a day)had some funny ass dreams and a little anxious.
Yeah bro drop to 50mg, the sides are only going to get worse the deeper you go into it.
tread-mHe meant mg's and not ml by the way...lol
Lmfao thanks brother.
tread-mHe only had 3 ml in before we caught him..I rolled him around a little , he'll be aaaaaight! Lol
Haha good thing I got you watching my back. From now on in going to double check my post before I submit :(
tread-mNaaa hell I do that all the time, especially the mg to mcg stuff....i figure if they pump 100 iu's of cjc1295 in there stomach or take a couple hundred T-4 tabs at once even if I missed it its their bad! Lol
Haha agree.
Yep that would of just been my dumbass's fault...
get some caber for the poss gyno issues...... good luck!!!!! lol