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Background: I am 45 yrs on HRT or some call it TRT. My test levels were 279 which is why my doc put me on roids.
Current dosage: 200mgs test cyp every week, and 200 mgs deca for the joints with ancillaries hcg and anastrozole.
Cycle question: So....... if I want to run a cycle do I ignore the 200 mgs test the doc has me on because I am deficient? In other words if my cycle is 500 test per week do I do 700?
I feel this is important because 200 mgs more or less can make a big difference no?
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i am 47 i run 750 a week of sustanon it is the perfect dose for me,then after cycle i do 4 weeks of pct and then back to TRT 100mg of test c every 2 weeks.Very strong as a power lifter at 198 lb.and very happy sex life.if u look at my picture u can see i am doing ok at 47 years old.
wow bro did you happen to read my post on low t,,i scored 127,,this moron doc is giving me 300mg every three weeks?.i think i need it weekly but who knows,,lol..thats why i self medicATED too,,lol
tread-mEVERY 3 WEEKS!!! WEEKS! WEEEEEEEEEEKS!!!! You need a new doc brother! Ideally you would run eod on prop but the next best is a split week with long ester and the next once a week with long but EVERY 3 WEEKS! WITH A 127! WEEEEKS! LOL. Dont walk, run away from that doc man. He will do you more harm than good seriously, you will be an emotional wreck and your estrogen will probably be so high you could be the winner of the hooters competition this year, hell I'd vote for you! Glad you're smarter than your doc and adding to it. You might consider, if not already, running the prop for aiding his so you can come off of it a few days before blood tests so he doesnt think his 3 week master plan is working.
DOUBLE G 67bro i have a friend who has low t..his doc has him on 1000mg of test undeconoate every 12 weeks....yes 12 weeks!!!!i take 1500mg.a week on my winter cycles!!! whatup with these docs??? lol(2cc of t500,then wait 12 weeks)yikes!!!
"whatup with these docs???"
Well between the Doc's and big pharma, I think they figured out there is a problem they better handle before the Government steps in, so they low dose the poor bastards and make them feel alittle bit better but still leave plenty of symptom for the Doc's and Big Pharma to push pills at.
Just my 5 cents worth.
tread-mNothing surprises me with these people. Its the God complex that Doctors get, rather than admit they dont know about something and send you out to a specialist they will do and advise things thinking it has to be right given how smart I am.
yeh the doc said he didnt know to much about low t...so im switching doctors and doing 50mg ed of test prop and i feel so much better bro...i knew someone was wrong thats why i had them test it,plus.i havent touched a cycle in 8 years..am on my secind week now and feel amazing .. plus he charges me 20 bucks per shot my insurance sucks..so i paid 20 for 300mg 1ml....cheaper buying gear online...ya know...lmao
So you are running 350mg/w for HRT?
tread-mYou dont count prop mg's the way you do long esters RD. If you only took 50mg of prop in a Week for example and its basically dead in 2 days and you average that out for the week it is much less than a long that would carry the entire week. So 50 a day is a real reasonable amount on a cruise. Now if it were a long then yes, full blown cycle volumes on the low side. Now added to his long he gets from doc it ups the values but even there, doc is every two weeks creating instability so the stabiility in the short ester is the only reason he isnt on a roller coaster. Anyway the 350 prop is much less than 350 a week of long and there is no stacking esters left over at shot time. This will stack at 50mg when one shot is given and 24 hrs later it falls out in half life as the new shot comes in. So essentially he has 100mgs of test in his system at any given time to where on the long ester he has a minimum of 350mg's of test in his system at any given time before we start adding how much ester has carried at the time the neww sbhot is administered. Long story short, 50mg's of prop daily is very similar to hitting 100 mg a week of long ester just witbout the instability if that makes any sense.
As a matter of fact that does make sence, thank you for the correction! My bad for the misdirection....
doc is giving me a total of 4 shots...1 shot every 3 weeks of 300mg then hell take my bloos again.these doctors i believe really dont understand this it seems ...from what am reading and what am going through...
Well bro if you were set up for 100mg/w and you are now running 350mg/w ofcourse your gonna feel great, your basically running a cycle, its mild but far more than TRT...Im not an expert on TRT but im aware thats well over the normal dose. 100mg/w of test-e or c shot every 3.5 days is a TRT dose, the part that your doctor is fucked up on is that it needs to be shot twice a week for stable blood levels.
DOUBLE G 67i couldnt live with myself if i took that in 1 week bro!!! lol lol
tread-mGood for you! I swear one of the classes in Med school should be a semester of eroids!
tread-mYeah the docs are a little slow to figure things out in my opinion humble as it may be. Have your test checked after being on the cyp cruise they have you on for about 8 weeks. I would also do an igf-1 panel to see if your productiion there is rising with the extra test. Very important to show an increase there to prove you are making the necessary adjustment for balance in the axis. Trt is test and hrt will refer more to test and hgh which in my opinion is the ONLY way to go. But I would have the two values tested and come back and repost the topic with your levels and you will benefit yourself in a big way. As well, prop is the only way to go in trt or hrt. Cyp stacks in ester and keeps your levels in an up and down pattern when compared to short which will be much more like your natty conditions. What we often do is keep the doc run going and add prop to either increase the cruise or blow the cruise into a cycle a couple times a year. Do yourself a favor and have the tests and come back. I'm happy to help you with a blast now but those answers will make it a better scenario if you can have it done. Oh and another good reason to use prop to blast in addition to your cyp from doc is that you can quickly pull your reading down when you have a test coming up so doc wont pull you from the program or depriciate you therapy volume.
Ok tred I have not had the time to get new tests I can say this much 6 months ago when I started this my test was 249 and my hgh was 96. They ( my hrt doc) are recommending at this time HGH a six month commitment of 2 units a day at $5000.00. I just paid $500 for 10 ml of test and 10 ml deca, but at least I have a script right? I can order every 10 weeks So anything above that amount I buy somewhere round here. Anyways I think I have rambled enough. Thanks for you response.
You are absolutely right! At this moment I am blind and a few tests latter we can know where we are. I will get the tests done on the next few weeks and repost. Thanks Tred
Have you researched the "blast and cruise" technique?
Did you cycle before being placed on HRT?
No I never cycled at all. I only because interested after i went to an anti-aging doctor and he prescribed the 200 test and 200 deca. But the results are so kick ass I figured what the heck lets research and see what all the fuss in about. So here I am.
AnonIMO 200 with the deca should do you fine. Ask your Doctor their opinion. Running 700 certainly isn't protocol for HRT and is more then enough for anyone. Go slow at this!
Figure you were low to begin with. Get ALL the benefits of the 200+200 and then try 350 and next year after cycling on and off try 500.
Typically test to deca is 1.5 to 2.0 to 1.