I hit this in the other thread but I'll throw my .02 here too in case someone stummbles on it....they actually would compliment one another. I look to peps as a cycle as opposed to hgh having to be a long haul run for benefit. I see people running hgh in a cycle of gear for the same 10-16. Weeks and its poinless to me, the benefit has barely started to kick in by the end of a long cycle so althougbh I think you had this fraction of a benefit in that your axis balance was a little higher based on the presence of extra growth, not sure it was enough to constitute the extra expense or trouble. So to the benefits of the combination, while the peps are in the ballpark of only 40 strands and are not the 191 required to be categorized as growth hormone, they do cause a pulse of additional growth to increase a little via your glands (hypo&pitiu). Having said that they not only work much faster than hgh but they do something very different in terms of the mirror. In a short 10-16 weeks they will really bring on the rip if diet is right and bring on what I call the Bruce Lee look. By contrast the hgh tends to cause a little bloating, less if using T-4 and really dialing in diet but a little none the less. So given they do different things and some of the same things in the body they accent one another very well in theory. Given the extra growth pulse from the peps I would persoanlly not exceed around 4 and maybe 5 iu's of growth while running the pep cycle, probably 4. Reason being, you can only balance so much growth in the axis and any more would likely just be wasted. Given this question is more vague than. Your previous thread let me say for others reading, all of his would be an extreme waste of time and money without the use of test. The axis will not utilize extra growth without enough test to balance it and simply discard it as though you took too many vitamins.....would go in and right back out like it never happened, we had a less fortunate member who thought he could discard all the science and make his own rules and proved the fact by using up to 8iu's of growth with no test and had no results. Then ran around crying bunk hgh while all the other people using it properly were getting results. While much of what we do is still theory there is a large volume of fact by now surrounding hgh and the test/hgh combo is a fact.