I did find a lot of confusing information as I muddled through google at one time but so conflicting! I have a cousin who trains with 2 local builders and have come to know one pretty well...Both compete, one pretty high level and then 1 more really high level competitor that trains with my brother. Between the three I came to the conclusion that the ghrp6 and the cjc1295 would best serve my need at the time. I described the look I got from them in another topic here. Seemed to be more of a cut and harden thing for me but others have different experiences as with anything. I was probably running sustanon/deca with it if I remember right if that helps. I kind of gave up on good reviews at the time given the experiences were so different and just all over the place. I suspect it will be like most things...how heavy are you lifting and what is the diet like in terms of quality and caloric intake? Could likely achieve good lean gains in a longer term situation s with growth. I think you would have to staircase pretty high over long term use as they wear off easily in my own experience, even ramping up. One of the local builders I mentioned actually ramped up to even using the cjc1295 daily and its a week half life if I remember. The problem with some, such as him, is that they are on literally 10 different compounds and it becomes hard to know what is doing what. Look forward to seeing other info come in and looking over it, nice topic!