I used VIPs at 2 iu am and 2 iu pm for a while. The mistake I made is I went to 3 am and 3 iu pm and when I didn't see any increased sides jumped to 4 iu am and 4 iu pm. I only gave it a week. Well about a week later I got crushed with sides. Numb tingly fingers and fore arms. Shoes got too tight. Backed back down to 2 iu am and 2 iu pm. I just now got it up to 4 iu am and 4 iu pm again. This time nice and slow. My time frame is about 8 months on gh. Lost a lot of body fat when I was doing my cut diet. Hard to really say I got any muscle gain from it because of all the other compounds I have been running. A friend of mine told me that he felt that it took 6 iu a day of non pharma gh to put on muscle tissue. I'll find out in the next 12 weeks when I go on my cruise. Gh, low dose test, and ai's.

I'm currently taking them by itself I use 4ui a day Monday through Friday. It has help me keep strength and size from last cycle. I do however get some joint pain on my knees. I don't know if its from the vips or maybe I'm just squatting heavy. I'm gonna cut it down to 2ui a day and see if its the VIPs causing this pain