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I had imagined it would be so much worse than this. Any input? Been on cycle practically all year.
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Platelet count is the most concerning thing I see. You’re over 50% above the high end of normal. High platelet count means higher risk of blood clots. Didn’t you get RBC, hematocrit and hemoglobin? If not I’d guess they are sky high, and you need to come down to a low TRT dose at most. And probably donate some blood.
I'm thinking what you're thinking and yeah a CBC is pretty standard and cheap. Yeah it sucks because my hematologist says it's usually an unknown cause or one that's hard for them to pinpoint without loads of testing. I was a bit over the top range of 450,000 once in the most they did was a jak2 genetic test considering my EPO was in range. However the CBC is important because if your WBC is jacked way up, like mine was, then it was most likely why the total platelet count was up. So we chalked it up to an unknown infection, and the plan was to retest in 6 months which all ended up being well. Considering mine were so high which was considered leukocytosis they did run an extra test which required a centrifuge so they can separate and examine the WBC's to rule out leukemia. If EPO was out of range they would have wanted a bone marrow biopsy
Aside from all that he could very well be anemic good call Iron
Dkoon211Also I am now wondering if being up all night fucking and being dehydrated has something to do with some of the poor results. I should retest and actually do what they say.
Dkoon211Hemotocrit is 42.3
Hemoglobin is 13.9
I am down to 40 my test e daily. And gonna drop down to 20 MG daily next week. Just trying to slowly drop so my hormones don't get stupid again.
A 42 hematocrit and 13.9 hemoglobin on cycle? Are you anemic lol? That’s unreal. I’m pretty sure you’d be below normal off cycle which is like 41 for hematocrit a 13.5 for hemoglobin. Maybe some people are unaffected by gear but most people run atleast 2-4% higher on HCT on cycle or on TRT. Some even higher than that.
Dkoon211It's gone up on cycle. A Lil. But I truly believe the gastric bypass is got has something to do with it. Also I eat really well. Mostly organic. High fat. Unprocessed food. I did carnivore for a minute. But also yeah that's why I was doing 600 MG of tren e because I didn't feel it was doing what it should do. I'm odd I suppose.
He got the Covid vaccine mate
Dkoon211Not me lol. They couldn't pay me to get it.
Bloodwork is pretty bad. Should’ve tested GGT, ApoB and Cystatin C and I promise you would’ve seen how your organs are asking for help. Would also recommend getting a prescription for ezetimibe and rosuvastatin (if based in the US there’s a couple of telemed places), all the other supplements are waste of money. If BP or cystatin C are bad, consider adding telmisartan.
His eGFR is really good, normally that is much worse than Cyctatin C on a like for like basis if his kidneys were suffering.
Dkoon211Apob is at 108, but my dumb ass was up all night having some pretty crazy sex. So I think on top.of being dehydrated the workout didn't help me. I'm gonna retest the other stuff next Tuesday and see. Gotta fast and do it right this time. I will give an update then.
Dkoon211Is there a single panel for all of these, or i just select them manually? I have them in cart but for future I could maybe save some money.
I have to add them manually but I don’t know if every site is the same. Usually panels these places sell are kinda meh because they don’t test everything or add things that are not necessary. What I do is I build my own before paying for the requisition.
Dkoon211Yeah I think they do that so we get suckered into buying more. I will go in to test in 2 weeks. Hopefully I can make some minor improvement. If not I'll just hit up one of them telemed places. Can't stand wasting time at Dr's. At what point would you sai I would need those 2 prescription if my results are poor
Dude get on privatemdlabs.com and you can order tests there, the mens hormonal test includes all the stuff you need.
So the basic men’s one? I see a few different ones well 3 basic body builders and live for ever or something like that. Idk what the va is going to do nor the trt place is going to order and I’m not staying with the trt place I decided to go a different way bigger and better way lol
The basic is fine if you click on it, it will show what is included. You need a CBC, CMP, Lipids, Testosterone free and total, Estradiol, I think is also has TSH and PSA.
Do you think the bodybuilder one is worthwhile as it includes SHBG, GGT and Prolactin? I’ve been thinking of switching my subscription from men’s hormone health checkup for every 3 months.
Yea if you want those tests do it I usually just add a prolactin on or ferritin but it’s whatever you want to check
The way I would handle this is to make lifestyle changes (running actual TRT doses, locking in diet and cardio/NEAT) and wait 2-3 months before retesting. Cholesterol, ApoB and GGT changes back to “normal” aren’t quick so you have to give it a little bit to see if the changes you made work. If not, get a prescription and retest a few months after that.
Quick note: If you had bad values before blasting maybe lifestyle changes won’t work and these medications are the next step.
Dkoon211I was pretty good prior to starting. I will do that though. Thanks man. Have a great night.
TBH Pal - Considering you've been running all that lot I'd say those Liver results aren't that bad!!! LMAO
I have an ALT of 83 when continually running 40mg DBol inject ED month in month out AND taking Milk Thistle, NAC, Astragalus root, Choline, Glutamine, Zinc etc. Maybe the Liv 52 is actually doing something after all!!!
But yes, give it a break now and those will soon go back into normal range. I had serious Stomach pains at ALT 210 with Steroid induced Hepatitis years back running 700mg Tren ace and 80mg DBol ED for a long time. Its no fun as you can't eat or drink without being in excruciating pain - affects everyone differently though as I've seen guys up in the 6 to 700's on here and still feel fine amazingly - it's those Kidneys you wanna watch mate because they DON'T recover themselves when you hit them hard. eGFR and Creatinine are much more important to monitor than ALT and AST.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/kidney-liver-suppleme...
Dkoon211Creatinine is .82 and
Egfr is 113
Any eGFR over 100 is great mate - try keep it there over your steroid journey
Dkoon211Hell ya, ty.
Dkoon211Thank you! I was actually really scared to get this done and look at it because of how long I've been on. I only started any form of liver support like 3 months ago at best. There's so much I want to try with so little time lol. But yeah I only shared what was in red. I've ordered a shit ton of liver and heart health stuff now. Tha k you for all the I sight. I'll see what creatnine and egfr read
Dude either stop or cut that cycle down, you got to get those liver enzymes down. Your liver is under stress right now. What all are you taking?
Dkoon211I am also doing 50 MG of zinc a day. Just found that can raise that stuff too. Damn...
Dkoon211I actually just stopped last Wednesday. Just cruising test right now.
Yeah do that man and then go get that liver blood work done again after a week or two.
What all did you run and how long???
Dkoon211Npp in the beginning of the year anavar later, then tren and windstrol the last couple months
lol you need to put it down for a while
Dkoon211Yes, I am thank you. I imagine it's the 600mg of tren e that finally pushed it up. But yeah I'm taking a break.
Tren destroyed my labs and honestly the break (cycle off time) is killing me, the strength and size depletion almost has me screaming body dysmorphia! I got labs follow up next month, fingers crossed!
Damn! How long?
Dkoon211The 600 was like a month maybe 6 weeks. I wasn't feeling it at lower doses. Tren just isn't for me.
That’s why you start with ace.
Dkoon211I was doing 100 a daily for like 2 weeks prior.
Must have been that K4L tren. No way that wouldn’t put your dick in the dirt.
Dkoon211It's pharmacom. And I sent it in for testing... it was real.
Tudca and nac wouldn't hurt for liver and kidneys along with low dose retatrutide for the lipids
Dkoon211I will get some right now. Been using the liv 152 and neddles. Reta u think 1 MG a week?
Liv 52 but the DS(double strength) basically the same price. Can get like 10 bottles from india on ebay for $40. 2 a day and never had a liver issue no matter what im taking for cycle. Its for cirrhosis
But i also dont drink or do anything else harmful to liver. Probably only works on healthy liver.
Liv 52 is India trash need need some injectable glutathione.
Ezetimbe
Citrus berg
Astragulas
Nac
Tudca
Milk thistle
this, big fan of astragalus, NAC, TUDCA. it's also helped my fathers panel whose 85 tremendously from all the meds they have him on. i suggested it to him and it lowered his enzymes pretty quick. at the minimum take 1-2g NAC/day and kick start that gluthatione bro.
best of luck!
Hell yeah that's good to hear! I also use
https://www.goldenstandards.com/
Bostin loyd said that's the only supplement he's ever used that brought his kidney numbers down and he's not affiliated with them so I've used it ever since.
Dkoon211I just ordered the glutathione. Gonna go do homework on it now. Thanks.
Totally forgot a site to recommend he sells pharma gluta hmu next time you need it.
Dkoon211I only ordered 1 vial of 15kmg I don't know what dose I should do. I also see it's IM not subconscious.