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  • RawGonza22   •   Fri, May 1st, '20 17:51   •   34 replies, 552 views

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I've ran Winni 50mg daily for 30 days back in 2012. I ran it with 500 mgs of Test E during the last 30 days of a 12 week cycle. And Holy Moly. This was a tinted 30ml jug imported in a vehicle or smuggled from Juarez up somebodies Kulo...the name was scribed on the label as Stanozola 50, and I could only draw it using a thick 20 or 19 gauge pin because the Crystal's in the milky substance would clog the needle. And the gear was very uncomfortable going in, and there always remained a mild soreness or pip for hours after injection.
I only ran it for 4 weeks and will not expand on my experience but it was phenominal in weight loss, vascularity, dryness, and insane, immeasurable, pro hernia daily strength gains. This was my first and last, 1 and only experience with Winni, and loved it, so I wanted to try this brand of product as well as PMROIDS and their exceptional, persistent, and professional customer service. I've talked to PM on several occasions about finishing a cycle with this winni and decided that I needed to as.the.crew here on this Forum because I've been shy to do so prior to this. Lol. I am in need of cycle advice I guess.
I received this gear from PMRoids in perfect order, but noticed after just a few days that I received it a bit milky but now clear with a white powder settled but shakes easily similar to the Stanozola. I do remember having to shake the Mexican Stuff because if I do remember, the dark 30ml vial scribed and instructed me to do so.
I do have several vials of crashed Eq and Test A 150 from other sources but those type of clear Crystal's are much tougher to reconstitute.
This Winni from Ultima I can already taste, but my issue is, if you, the reader and my advice were to just add this to the tail end or remaining 4 weeks of a cycle, would it be ok to take, let's say 50mgs daily with a daily dose of 50mg Test Acetate, (I am running 100mgs of Tren A daily, just dropped the NPP 400 weekly, but will drop Tren dosage if need B) and a 1 weekly dose of Eq 450mgs, all three compounds I've been running for around 10 weeks (need to check my calendar) weeks I believe, but am going to cut this cycle short due to a few things but am going to finish strong and continue thereafter....this is the thought in the next few weeks.
1. Can I run the final 4 of 20 weeks using Winni, Eq, and Test??? I will finish strong with proper pct.
2. Can Winni and Tren A be run together? I'm stopping the Tren A anyhow, I'd be stupid to go 12 rounds with this stuff. I already cant sleep amd want to argue with nice people and yank off Corona masks.
I do have Caber, Aroma, 10,000 HCG and SERMS for a solid PCT. I just want to finish strong, the last 4 with this Winni from PMRoids.

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  • Spark's picture
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  • Spark
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Nice. You did post a perfect pic of your fingerprint...,lol

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No just my eyes and Face will fly. I learned the hard way in Vegas with those Facial Recognition devices that do in fact work nearly 100%, if or when one is careless enough.

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Although I dont always have the better valid or reliable opinion, I am honest and share this to help other inquiring minds. I dont nor cannot give advice, I'm just sharing this people. I also have only 1 other 4 week cycle with Winstrol, or generic Mexican label, Stanazola; so my experience with this product is at its minimum; I ran it everyday at 50mgs per day for 30 days, rotating four injection sites until my ass cheeks rotted and were just sore day to day, until they turned into mush. Hardcore because I was taking Test E 250 EOD also; I did not mix the compounds, but I injected them separately so I was more or less injecting 2x per day. The soreness....
I have to shake the shit out of this brand of winni, ED, but I also had to do the same to the Mexican brand of Stanazola; this Mexican brand of Stanazola, Winstrol 50 came in a tinted, 30 ml vial, with a milky, white, crystallized substance, had to use a 21g Farmer Feed Shop Rig because of it clogging but eventually switched This Ultima is behaving similarly to the Mexican Stanozola, but This Ultima Winni is feeling good, little site pinch pressure soreness and PIP. It's the real deal so far and will know more for fact soon.

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Now for the winni, this is the second time of running water based Winstrol V 50, and I can really feel it as it goes in. I can alwasy taste a chemical if there is a chemical, and after nearly 2 weeks, along with Tren A, wow. There is very little pinch going in amd a couple of days of very mild pip; I am rotating 6 injection sites, switched from Feed Shop 21g 1.5 goat pins to 21g, 2inch Human Grade pins. The first few pins I seperated the Winstrol from the Test and Tren A to test for PIP, and any possible reaction, good or bad, and thus far I'm a happy camper. Skin is tight. Diet is good for most part amd I'll keep updated for winni and final weeks results. Started this long ass 20+ week cycle lean at 200, now 225 lean, maybe 12% bf and speculating. Will post pics later. Will be going for a few more weeks with this Winstrol and Tren, will drop Test in 6 days and will substitute HCG to roll toward pct

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Option two I would go Winni and tren any day most def Can be ran together with a perfect diet the results will be sick

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Enjoy your UltimaWin 50 Inject - ultima pharmaceuticals. I believe, you have gotten understanding advice to end your cycle and waiting your result after you will finish your cycle!!

Thanks for all followers.

PMRoids.

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Im not half-assing this Winstrol and the final stages of the cycle and PCT. I've got all the food I need just not getting in the iron work demanded. I've ran winni once and I do know this brand is good. Imma do it right.
Just playing this Fuckin waiting game one day at a time. Hopefully now that we are required to wear masks out of the house, everything will go to normal. Will keep posted.

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I'm thinking....hmmm. I'll get with you. This covid crap. The worst timing for my best planned out cycle

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hey bro :) from my experience winny + tren is amazing finish,that is what gives bodybuilding stage physique if bf is low enough...only concern is lipids,tren + winny can crush it really bad but i can see your tren dosage is not that high and u will come off after winny so everything will bounce back pretty fast...u can even start winny EOD first 2 weeks and last 2 increase to 50mg ED...we know quality is top notch from PM so u will have some nice finish there buddy...:) strength,vascularity,dryness, strong pumps etc that is what combo of winny and tren can do

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Seeing a doc early tomorrkow, will do bloods, especially blood count from Eq, but yes lipid is a must, as well as creatinine from kidney (numbers a bit high when on cycle or when consuming protein supps) blood pressure.was high ancouple weeks ago, but was a mother load of pain.at the moment due to an infection. I've been drinking alot of water, and getting ready for the final 4-6 weeks. I'm on time,.doing great IMO, I'll post pics and bloods when comfortable, best I've done so far on and off cycle. Thanks for input

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RBC will be high from EQ for sure but at 450mg nothing extreme i believe :) for kidney i can recommend u astragalus,that thing can really do wonders and that is why Dante Trudel talks a lot about it...
for blood pressure take some baby aspirin before sleep,increase water intake and keep an eye on sodium to potassium ratio

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Perfect. Got lots of baby aspirin just sitting and thanks for the kidney solution. I've got a bit of TUDCA, amd am stocked up nicely, mostly pfitser PCT

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Bud - Not to denounce what Josip is saying, but PLEASE try and find another way to lower Blood pressure other than necking aspirins :) On the occasion I have had to take them for toothache man can I feel how harsh they are to stomach lining etc the next day after the painkilling has worn off. They are really not good for you at all dude. Get some of these 'On Cycle' support tabs which have loads of natural things in them to help .....

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I thought a bit and will take one til I get some blood donated. Imma just take out a pint. This Eq is working big time. I just know it. Mild pressure, or mild headaches here and there, just a bit of pressure I'm not familiar with, while drinking alot more water.

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Baby aspirin press,it is only 85mg and doctors perscibe it for heart and blood pressure...and best is taken after meal before bed

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I know people do take them for this reason, but I just think its bad practice and am trying to look after him that's all man :)

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Like I said, I just commented my reasoning, I know that I need to donate, and have reason too and not too do baby aspirin but will take one tonight, tomorrow and until I donate. Think that's the answer.
Ya. I'll back off on baby aspirin for a commitment anyway. I will talk to my other doc, a Private Family Ukranian Nurse Practitioner who just keeps shit straight.

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Best way it to try it,that is one of the safest drugs...it can't be compared to regular aspirin 500mg

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Right on. Ya, I just need to donate for starters, very rich blood bro, but will do the baby stuff tonight and for the next few days...we will see how BP is in the AM. I've Never had high BP

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I'll get back with you. Thank you. I need this input. Oh and I see the dosages. I asked on last reply. Got it man. Thanks

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Hey Buddy - I use to run quite a bit of Winny Inject about a year ago and had great results with it in terms of quick strength and power. I always ran it with Tren ace and never had any problems - In fact it works well with it as it acts like Caber in that it lowers your progesterone so you feel great on it! I literally ran 50mg EOD and found that was more than enough, no need for ED. Its much stronger in injectable form than tabs thats why bud. Winny inject does have pip to it - there is just no getting away from that. Make sure you mix it in with other compounds in the barrel even if it is water based - yes the water and oil separates but it doesn't harm you in any way and makes the oils inject much easier :-) Hope this helps mate

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I got it. My plans are fucked. I've been planning and stocking for a year. This Covid crap bro. Its become hard to find free weights out in the papers or online. I'm getting things done but all hell man. I'll get with you before I do this winni, if I do it, now

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Bud just hang tight - That's great news isn't it! Only 9 days to wait, it could be way worse mate. Look at people like Oz who still don't know when their gyms will open again - it will probably at least 2 months for area's hit hard or that have bad PPE equipment. These things happen man & there is just F all you can do about it. Mate I cannot sleep for a few hours when I get into bed on a night because of tooth pain, thats after pain killers! But what can I do about it right now, NOTHING. Just gotta ride it out and thank GOD you are not on a ventilator struggling for each breathe you take. Just remember each time you feel down about it that everyone else is going through it also, it will pass buddy :-))

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Ya your right. We got our health and no, I'm not having any serious health issues whatsoever, Bill's are paid, got alot of Chx and rice and steaks, and bottom line I have a healthy family and I am thankful. Things can be much worse, absolutely damn right. As for pain, oh man, then the pain pills...tough to properly dial those in and I dont care what anybody says, tooth aches are the worse kind of pain, brutal. Meds or not, I dont sleep well, 2-3 hours here and there but it's time for that Melatonin. Wish I had advice for your pain, and I know that specific pain all to well. Oh bro, the worse. I cant put enough emphasis on what you are going through, thanks for keeping me in check. I'm on it man.

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This Covid 19 deal or Corona deal has just fucked everything up for me. This was going to be my first real cycle. If course wasnt planning the winni but was thinking about some HGH. But I figured next year now. I've got everything that I need for a solid PCT, thank god for that but I had enough Eq to run a 16 week. I'm already 8 weeks in and things are killer considering the gyms out here are closed now for months ready. I'm putting in decent workouts with buddies at home or workouts but getting tons of static type training, pushups with 25lb weight on back. I'm thankful for the little things right now. I've got to be. Things alway get better

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You'll be alright my man! Things will be opening in a few weeks I reckon, they are about to open hairdressers and pubs here - next on the list are gyms etc

Just think mate that there are people who have had access to nothing at all at home to train with - things will soon come back once you get in the gym again :-)) You'll have even more desire to train and kick ass too!

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Isn’t the pip pain different from an oil base product that would contain pip? It’s more of a burning with less swelling? Also, I knew someone from another forum who used to only run water based type 5 week on and off cycles throughout the year. Swore by it and never used oct or had any type of issues. Have you ever heard of these short cycles with minimum to low risks? Low doses like you’re suggesting also.

Nice order raw and PMroids is a phenomenal source

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There is Mild pinch with a bit of uncomfortable pressure going into the glute with a slin, 21g 1.5 inch pin. I've taken ED pins and my glutes are really sore. I took in the shoukder yesterday amd just a little sore for now. The needle is not thick enough. The crystalized powder in water based Winstrol tends to make some atomic bond. This stuff is good so far. I'm making insane progress. I've recently heard of these shorter cycle and I will do Tren A and Winni 50 for 5 weeks here on out.