posted Sun, 03/12/2023 - 05:48
+ 35 Current Conditioning
Currently 200lbs @ 5’7” probably around 8% BF. Leaning out before my next growth phase.
Currently 200lbs @ 5’7” probably around 8% BF. Leaning out before my next growth phase.
Killin it man. Sheesh
See that's what impresses me nowadays, it's not so much size as it is quality ya know? For example in powerlifting to me it's about pound for pound strength. I'd rather much see a 200 pound guy bench 500-600 than a 280 pound guy bench 500-600. That's just an example. It's scary being under 500, damn near 600 plus pounds man! But point is he looks better than some 280 pound guys in my opinion
I hear that man.
Yeah...big ole dude for only 200 pounds
All done with minimal drugs and hard work. Love it.
You better believe it...love it!
Glad to see you still around and killing it brother. Keep it up
Maybe work on those shoulders a little more lol damn brother!
Dam bro looking good. For some to get to this look it takes hard ass dedication. +1.
Shredded. There is a lot of hard work and planning that went into this physique.
Lookin like wolverine over here my man. Great work and impressive man sweater! I would give you shit about your belly button ring but I'm too scared lol!
Hahahaha Thanks Man. It’s all good brotha. I wouldn’t take offense anyways. Lol I can take a joke. I like it. It’s my flavor --
Great physique sir. Where do you find your limit is with max cardio before it starts being detrimental? Balancing the diet fatigue with the cardio fatigue with the training fatigue is something I’m trying to improve on.
I’ll typically top out at around 60-70min a day at the tail end of a cutting phase. 30-40min fasted in the morning. 20-30min post workout.
I swear I’ll fuckn quit using gear after reachin a physique like yours lmao solid brother
I’m with you, Brick!!! Life goals right there
Hahaha thanks brother. There’s ALWAYS another level. Once you reach one, you’re looking to reach the next. It’s a constant pursuit of perfection.
What other lvl can you possibly reach? Lmao that physique is totally insane brother....
Damn brother, lookin solid +1
Damn bro, good work. I wish i had the time and work ethic to get to that physique but im bad at time management. +1
Respect for the hard work you put in and out the gym bro. Very evident with that physique...thumbs way up and keep on truckin!
Great quality and symetry --
Looking solid af !!!
Looking phenomenal Wish I could get my waist that tight.
Thanks brother. I really appreciate it. Haha I try to keep it as tight as I can.
I wish I could give more than one thumbs up, great shape!
Big man musculair vasculair 100% ++
Crazy definition. Everywhere. Skin looks good though, what was your stack for this cycle mate?
Thanks brother. I’ve never gotten side effects from gear usage. Never had acne in my life. Never once experienced sensitive nipples or breakouts regardless of compounds or dosage. My skin has always been clear. I don’t use AIs. The only bad side effects for me was crashing E2 back when following “forum experts’” advice and using an AI from the get go. Now, I don’t use them. Ever.
When trying to get leaner I use a lower dose of test. (Usually propionate or acetate) 200-300mg / week. some masteron (if wanting to stay dry and hard) Usually equal dosage to test (200-300mg / week) and my favorite, Trenbolone acetate. My body loves tren. I don’t experience any negative sides regardless of dosage. Other than some insomnia and night sweats at times. Which HGH helps with. Dosage can vary. I usually hover around 500mg of tren acetate / week when I use it.
And of course HGH. Huge fan of HGH. Been slowly upping the dose of HGH. 5iu to 7-8iu, now at 10iu for the past few weeks when I reintroduced the trenbolone and masteron after my cruise (200mg test e / week, 25mg proviron) 4 weeks ago. HGH increase is basically to prime my body for growth when I drop out the Trenbolone and masteron and switch it for NPP and up the calories while slowly increase the testosterone dosage until the desired thickness is achieved. Then lower it again.
Low test, higher tren with HGH combined with eating less and more cardio gets me lean.
More food, higher anabolics, HGH and slowly increasing testosterone dose as I carry more and more lean mass helps me grow.
I don’t use insulin.
Watch those levels of using GH for that long. You will start growing organs and feet and head from long term high dosage. Barry Bonds is one example his head grew from a 7 as a rookie to over 8 plus when he retired and his shoe size grew from 9 and half to 12. Maybe he wasn't done growing as a rookie but he was around 21 or so.
Insulin resistance is more likely to happen with higher doses also which I would keep an eye on. That will happen before your shoe size increases
Any recommendations on how to manage that @Makwa? Or tips on increasing or maintaining insulin sensitivity while on HGH? Taking metformin? Or just taking breaks from GH? Or lowering dose for a while like we do for testosterone on TRT? What do you feel is a dose one could run indefinitely? Or you think we should all come off for a few months out of the year? Thanks Brotha
Lowering your dose back down is one way, but the best is cycle IGF-LR3 with it. LR3 will reset insulin sensitivity with GH use.
Just did some looking into it. Makes sense. What type of LR3 implementation do you find best brother? Include the LR3 throughout as a constant? Only when doses of HGH go above a certain amount /day? Cycle on/off HGH using the LR3 during off times? Thank you @Makwa for the tips.
Usually when running a cycle is also when I increase my GH dose. It is tough for me to go above 6iu growth without feeling like a zombie all day so I cap it at 5-6iu/d. Once I get to that dose is when I start cycling in LR3. 4wks on 4 off at 50mcg on training days. Days off of training I don't pin the LR3. You can actually lower your GH dose while taking the LR3. You do need exogenous GH if using LR3 since it produces a negative feedback loop with your natty pulses of GH. If you are in that 3-4iu range even long term I really don't think you have to worry about your insulin sensitivity, but hitting 10Iu/d it then becomes a real possibility.
You the man bro. Thank you for sharing your approach. It’s much appreciated.
What you just wrote made me jealous...like a lot.... not having any sides from tren, not having acne, man wtf, I have all of these like instantly after I touch ANY ammount of gear, haha. I wish I could say "my body loves tren" one day :)). You know your body best and you are very knowledgable member of a community, thank you for sharing and keep up the good work brother.
As @simonmagus84 said. I usually don’t run my test dose very high. 200mg for TRT - 350mg tops. I know some guy’s experience sides regardless but have you ever tried running test low with higher 19-nor, DHT, DHB? Keeping test lower may really alleviate acne along with many other side effects. I’ve only just recently started pushing the HGH higher. From my understanding higher amounts of testosterone aren’t necessary unless you have high amounts of HGH in the blood, and for a good while prior. (Hence my reasoning for running 10iu+ until i drop the tren for NPP and slowly raise the test incrementally until I find that sweet spot where it adds thickness with the high HGH priming without ruining the look. High amounts of test just creates more side effects and bloats you, unless you’re running higher amounts of HGH too. From my understanding at least. This will be the first time in a long time i raise the test dose above 350mg because I’ll have a good 6+ weeks of double digit HGH dose ED. Without the higher HGH, 200-300mg of test is all you need. Some guys swear by 1g+ test but I looked like a water balloon at 750mg years and years ago when I first tried nandrolone (bought into the “test needs to be higher than nandrolone” parroted bro science which is bullsht) and never ran it that high again. So much of these “rules” of “test needs to be higher than…” or you shouldn’t run 2 19-nor together etc etc is all parroted bullsht by self proclaimed forum experts who never even tried anything they say and continue to regurgitate this falsehood everywhere. My body likes lower test, high anabolics but I’m always experimenting on myself so I’m going to see what slowly increasing the test dose with high HGH does for me. So we will see.
I wouldn’t change a f’king thing if I were you, lol. I recently learned about running my test very low, and i love it. Even with Prop, I’m bloated a little the next day.
As I gotten older I don't run high test 300-350mgs a week max. Sides I don't get except low /E2when I ran mast and primo so had to up test a little. But other then that I won't try high test anymore unless it is by itself.
I never went higher with test neither, yet still get androgenic sides every real cycle. So maybe just like you're saying, keeping my test at 250/week maximum ( that's the triggerpoint where my sides gets worse ) , letting other compound do the work would work for me better. That's interesting info and I'm definitely giving that a try once I'm healed and ready for a cycle. I well note all your advices, appreciate that man.
Kap, you should consider writing a forum topic regarding this subject because I’ve had intense debates about this as well but couldn’t withstand the the Herd. Personally, I’ve always had a preference to run cycles using lower test because sides tend to be more manageable but as far as running a nandrolone higher, I didn’t have the bravery to do so but am now considering it due to several conversation I’ve been having with other experienced users who’ve ran successful cycles using that protocol.
I like high NPP lower test. 2:1 works great for me. Probably my best growth phase to date was high NPP, lower test, HGH with Anadrol bursts throughout. (I know @Makwa loves his a-bombs.) I’m the same. Anadrol is my favorite oral hands down. I don’t have issues running high nandrolone with lower test. Proviron is horniness in a pill for me anyways. Lol plus there’s always cialis if you run into issues. Or if you’re in the gay community bi-mix, tri-mix, or caverject use is pretty common place.
Adrol for the win
As with anything you just need to run enough test to "keep your manhood". Alot of AAS will outcompete test for the receptors resulting in more aromatization and sides. Tren is a classic example, huge receptor hog and running higher test usually just means more unwanted side effects and not better results. Some can get away with it though.
Deca/NPP is not as great a receptor hog you so can usually run test a little higher without much more in the way of sides and benefit from the higher test if you like test. I personally like to run nandrolone 1:1 with test for my best results. With tren the test always has to be lower for me and I also typically seem to have better results with DHB when running lower test because it is a receptor hog also. The binding affinities of steroids can give you some insight on whether it is more beneficial to run higher or lower test with it. As a general rule of thumb for me though, I like to run test lower and let the ancilliary compound(s) do the bulk of the work and keep just enough test in the mix to keep everything working.
Thanks for the clarification Makwa, that’s typically the protocol I follow. The challenge for me will be when I choose to use Parabolan in the summer because I will only run it at 200 mgs per week so I’ll have to run my at around 160/180, if I even choose to run Parabolan at all. Some have run Deca at around 300 mgs while running test at around 250 mg but I’m not brave enough to attempt that yet and will typically choose the 1:1 ratio.