posted Sat, 07/09/2022 - 05:36
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+ 6 Bloods trt PP and 2ui Orange tops Ironlion-labs
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150mg Test E Para Pharma shot it 1 day before bloods
2ui 3 hours before bloods,firt time check igf nevels current age is 35
Lil high cholesterol nevels because i not eat clean diet for last 2 months im over 8-10lb of fat
Ready for burning that next blast
Never check t3 nevels before,show lil high too any advise to lower it or that is not to bad for start another cycle
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RustyhookerNot too bad. My older comparisons on grey vs orange with base of 67...tanked.
2iu orange...287
1.5iu greys 274
https://www.eroids.com/pics/iron-lion-puretropin-grey-tops
I don't know Rusty these recent numbers seem kind of low. You have seen a lot of these scores what do you think?
https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloodwork-testosteroneigf-1
RustyhookerAgree....chatted with him and he wanted to retest. At 5iu i figured much higher. It seemed folks were hitting towards 600.
I was busy when forum on igf numbers was recently being challenged. Folks were posting findings that showed masteron was lowering the numbers but i cant remember why. Seemed odd but there was posted med links showing pathways. Maybe i can find that forum. Hailrazor and a couple others were sharp on hgh. I havent studied it like i should. Some studies in med reports showed a few folks as non responsive to treatment.
@HanginLow i dont if i do right the protocol,just wake up shot like 2ui go sleep again , 3 hours later wake up and go to the labs doing bloods,is good hgh because i feel it if i go over 4ui i have carpel túnel on hands,
Okay man if you are happy then I am happy
Cheers
if you can find any of those forums send em over
Hmm interesting I will have to look at drostanolone and its relation to serum IGF-1
Yes there are "non responders" in the studies on growth stunted children, an endogenous test involving arginine is used to see if they are responders, very interesting as I am learning more on this topic and IGFBP3
Those # from 3 years ago are great, these recent numbers from iron lab are concerning in my opinion
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5627923/#:~:text=The%20seru...
A study I have been getting through shows average IGF1 180 for a 35year old. More research required.
RustyhookerAlways more to learn. And yes closer to 300 would be prime. Certain ai lowers igf, nolva lowers it...etc etc. These posts are few and far between so trying to look at all the variables becomes clouded and unresolved.
Even making things more difficult is the quality of some brews. A long defunct uk lab would openly test anything sent and list all the ingredients. It was free from my understanding and it listed pix. The amount of chems that werent what was listed was funky. Mast being test eq....primo being mast or eq etc etc. Really skews any all research from med standpoint.
This dude is on nothing but testosterone, score is low, we should be investigating this since it's a top source IMO I know you will be unbiased even though you have bought from them in the past. Batches change.
@MEXVOL
@ironlion you gunna say anything or just ignore me and like everyone else's response, you happy with this score?
Rustyhooker150 for 1300ish is low? Maybe im misreading? Free test 500's is ways up too
IGF1 bro, not the test
mentioned test because he is not on anything else, if anything test increases IGF1
test looks g2g
RustyhookerAhhhhh....i did misread. My igf was tanked at 67...old fart.
Did find that hgh use suppressed natty hgh. Which could lead towards other posted numbers from varied tests.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC423324/
we welcome everybody to test our orange top puretropin gh , post the test results honestly to help us to improve our quality and service .
you can go to test our gh too and post the test restults honestly, thanks ,
we are on eroids for about 8 years, if there is something wrong with our gh , we will go to check and deal with it quickly, we have talked with mexvol, and we will continue to check ,
in this field, great quality and honesty are very important . we don't sell fake goods, we dont' cheat anybody, we are sure the quality is great, if there is something wrong with it , we will be responsible ,:) for we get good results from other customers from other forums.
at the same time, there are lots of reasons to affect igf-1,of course, the numuber is not high, we will go to find what's going on ,
we send samples to Janoshik every year, you can check the following,
https://www.eroids.com/pics/newest-2022-hgh-test-report-hplc-from-janoshik
https://www.eroids.com/pics/new-hplc-orange-top-puretropin-results
https://www.eroids.com/pics/orangtops-puretropin-hgh-hplc-test-results
https://www.eroids.com/pics/orangtops-puretropin-hgh-hplc-test-results
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/what-matters-most-abo...
here is a recent poll showing what eroids users think of source posted Janos
you talked to @MEXVOL ? did you offer him different kits? what did you tell him? why would you offer different kits if there was no issue? what was said?
we just have two kinds gh 10iu/vial orange top puretropin and 15iu/vial grey top puretropin gh in our labs.
we have said, quality and honesty in this field are very very important, we have been a source in this famous forum for about 8 years, sometimes, we think about 98+% customers are satisfied with our quality and service, of course, maybe some guys are not satisfied our sevice and quality ,but when we meet this thing, we will try our best to find what's going on and deal with it and to improve our service and quality.
why do you think we offer him different kits? do you read the above infomraiton?
we have talked with Mexvol, you can talk with mexvol, whether we talk with him or not .
Hanginlow,We think that anyone can speak freely in this great forum, but we found that you are not discussing, you are already aggressive, we think the MODs had noticed it, thanks ,
LOL got the boys in china shaking in their boots from a few questions?
I was implying you sent him more kits for free and told him to retest in a couple months, which I have no proof of, I was IMPYING it
Buddy I am going to direct you to look at the top of the website you are on:
"We're a steroid source review community"
And you are damn straight everyone can speak freely, including me, I can ask questions, I can inquire because you on a forum literally specifically made for this purpose you dumb ass, you think the mods are gunna back you up and your 200 IGF1 score from me asking a few questions? Go tell em
I think customers have noticed your shitty bloods recently
I would check your quality
Have you ever had your IGF-1 level checked when you have been on trenbolone out of interest?
Rustyhooker1 yr ago on this tren cycle....think it was 100mg eod just as 1st run when gyms opened. I know i didnt run mast on that one. Just my trt dose and tren. Simple cycle.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/domestic-zphc-delivery-tren-limited-edition
Pics show i was on 4iu and tested at hour 3 after dose of hgh with 356 igf1.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/iron-lion-orange-tops
Was that tren even real. I had my doubts about that group
RustyhookerI got the crazy pumps and sweat like a hooker with carb up. Strength gain etc. I do believe they overheated it a bit.
Good questions though....brings up more. Next tren run i will get bloods done again on different brand. I typically stick to 2 that have done well. Promo was there so....gave it a go.
Maybe trenbolone doesn't have much impact on the numbers then but I was sure it would do
lol
RustyhookerRight?! Long ago we thought tren would. But here we are wondering the real culprit. And now knowing some ai/serms lower igf. So hitting nolva as a blocker...boom....dropped igf. Aro...slight raise. Etc etc. Maybe its by individual cases as well? Like some need letro while others nothing for ai?
Aah well if that's the case its quite possible then - What I would add though is when I run tren around 350 to 500mg/wk I don't really get any of the sugar cravings which I assume is down to IGF-1 release. 500mg/wk and beyond then I definitely do, so maybe the trenbolone needs be higher to reflect this rise in IGF numbers. It really needs to be tested when not on HGH too. I nominate Hanginlow to test this theory next time he does bloodwork! Lol
RustyhookerIgf1 pre cycle test....and again mid cycle. I was under the impression tren tweaked thyroid and accounted for higher fat burning.
Tbh I always thought it lowered thyroid levels which is why you can feel lethargic on it - thats why guys advise adding in T3/T4 tabs to boost them back up again. I may be wrong though - I bet I know who will know though!!! LMAO haha
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Pretty good liver and kidney function those numbers considering the amount of muscle on you! What's your protocol when getting bloods done in terms of time from last training session and fasted state?
press what do you think of the IGF1 score for 2iu?
Seems slightly low for 2iu's but not massively out, is his timing correct for pinning before bloods?
IDK this is something I do not have experience in, Low 200s for 2iu seems a little low to me... the last test I saw dude was doing 5iu 5x a week hit about 280 which definitely does not make sense to me
https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloodwork-testosteroneigf-1
Medical research baby
"The serum IGF-I level decreased to 180.1 ng/ml at the age of 35–39, which is 48.1% of that at age 18, and further decreased to 92.7 ng/ml at ages older than 70, which is approximately 24.8% of that at age 18. This trend was similar in both the females and males, although the degree of reduction was steeper in the females"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5627923/#:~:text=The%20seru....
he is just slightly above average healthy chinese adult at his age.........
I'm that guy. I'm at the end of my test, tren, mast cycle. I'm going to be cycling off and in 3 weeks off cycle on 200 a week test I will be doing bloods to check my health. I've since upped my hgh orange tops to 5iu 7 days a week. Consistently for a month now. I'm 32, I have probably 10 kits left. I will most definitely update my post when I get my results. If they're still low when the masteron is out then I'd say there's a problem. Base levels won't matter when I'm taking 5iu 7 days a week... I'll pin 10iu day of bloods if that'll help?
Good on you for testing brother, the protocol is to just pin your normal iu amount, for you thats 5iu Intramuscular, I like delt, approx 3hrs before your blood draw. Somewhat of a baseline has been established with the test you did so yes you should be able to tell. And at that dose you should be well above the reference range.
I have not been able to see the connection between DHTs and IGF1 being lower, AAS usually increasing IGF1.
will be tuning in thanks for testing
I took my 5iu that morning 3 hrs before blood draw but I did indeed take it sub q in my stomach. I will do research and possibly do my delt 3hrs before like you stated. Not saying anything bad but sources change, they have indeed been in contact with me inquiring when I will retest so to me that shows confidence.
yeah I do not think the IM vs subQ is a big deal, it increases the peak faster but from my understanding IGF1 is a cumulative effect not acute. Serum GH is used to check the acute GH response where IGF1 builds over time, taking it at the same time of day and every day as you have should give good results man. You should be 500+ with 5iu and I agree, sources change but they do have a good rep, we will see
Yep if you look at the different IGF-1 blood results for the various IU's they can seem a bit all over the place. I have seen another at 4iu's per day around 455! Yet another at 476 at 3iu's daily.
It does seem that the longer you stay on the HGH the more the value increases over time. There has to be other factors that come into play too regarding things you are also taking that affect the results - Being on Trenbolone has to hugely increase it also with that being notorious for increasing IGF 1 levels. One of the best things about it for tendon repair.
From my understanding the increase in IGF1 is minimal but there is substaintal interaction with IGF1 binding proteins and IGF1 receptor with trenbolone, but that is something I am looking into further
IDK for me GH is expensive and to have a IGF1 slightly better than an your average chinese guy who probably does not work out and smokes cigs (statistically speaking), does not seem worth it @MEXVOL I would have questions for iron labs personally, but I will leave that up to you
I dont have protocol i think workout saturday,sunday off and monday i do fasted bloods, just i like few days clean my kidneys using fasting parsley,i boil parsley, and drink the water fasted every morning for few days,I recommend doing this after cycle to clean kidneys
Just me but 2 estrogen id feel stiff. I prefer mine like 80s but that is only me personally because i dont feel any other sides besides gyno that i control with 10-20mg nolva)day. Are you using an AI or is that just your average TRT levels?
In the las 3 months i just take few times few Arimidex 0.5 2 twice a week for maybe just 2 o 3 weeks,zero gyno issues if i dont go over 250mg a week test,even in cycle I don't have it,just if i do tren
Yeah that low test i dont think i would have any gyno issue but never tried that low. Im so sensitive to gyno that i get swollen and sore at 250mg. Ideal estro i like mostly at around 60 but if amount i use creeps up to 80s i dont mind the benefits for me.
I am going to give you my feedback of you health parameters because you mentioned them a couple times.
I would not worry about the thyroid IMO, T4 not elevated so I would keep eye on still, if TSH continues to go down an T4/T3 goes up I would see doc
The cholesterol could come down, you know what you need to do. Incorporate lots of omega 3 and heart healthy fats like avocados and salmon. Do High Intensity Cardio, this is not something you want to neglect because gear is only going to skew your lipids more, even injectables and especially orals. But it is really not that bad TBH but you do not want it to get worse from here, if this was mid blast blood work it would be different this is low dose cruise going into a blast...
You might want to talk to your doctor about putting you on ezetimibe or other cholesterol lowering medications.
Just my quick analysis, I will leave it to other members to discuss the IGF1 score at 2iu. thanks for doing bloods +1
Thanks bro about let me know T3 is no bad,i keep in eyes TSH levels, yeah i just start cardio and omegas tomorrow i like before start cycle all my nevels are good,so i do cardio and eat clean few weeks more and check lipids again
I dont have insurance so im my own doctor lol ido trt by my self, trust more in fix natural way cholesterol nevels
over medications just using before GW with good results in it,
I don using GH daily i forget some days but i know is on point because if i try go over 2ui a day give me carpel tunel
Absolutely man, cholesterol does not look bad at all, especially if it was better before, very fixable.
Lipid profiles are hard to interpret without history because of particle size, like a low HDL might not be a as bad as you think if the particle size is high. I would recommend sticking to injectables as they impact lipids less and are more effective and tolerated overall.
I would wait at least 2 months before retesting lipids with some clean food and cardio.
I understand you have no doctor, it is just best when speaking about these things to not give out medical advice. I understand people being wary of cholesterol meds, but these are drugs that have had to pass a lot of human trials to be deemed effective and safe. GW never made it to human trials, we do not know much about it, just something to keep in mind.
Be well, cycle safe
IYes bro is what i running more time just injectables i always have this issues with cholesterol nevels but no to high, but i be honest is more because i eat whatever i want and the type base food i eating, like every day I eat whole eggs daily.alot steak Or fried food my culture cooks with a lot of fat
Yeah i waiting 8 weeks or check it mild cycle for see the lipids nevels again
Thank you bro for u to stay safe
On my last bloods my Cholesterol was actually below the lower limit lol I think its down to all the milk thistle I consume daily as its known to greatly reduce blood fat levels. You should try it and see if it works for you as its so cheap and has so many benefits.
I go try that on my next Cruise after cycle,maybe is that líder care i take on cycle tudca,i know increse cholesterol nevels