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Are they counterfeit amps I don't know but believe so?

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All right so I can't just say that these are counterfeit. I know how to authenticate another pharma grade brand but I don't know much about this brand. So I don't want to jump to judgment without anyone giving me some knowledge and advice.
Everything ive seen has pointed towards these being counterfeit.
I have batch numbers
6012
This amp has the batch number and the exp date printed on the amp just like the company name
6009
This amp has the batch number printed in black but the exp date inked on the side of the amp rubbing off easily
6008
I recieved 5 of these batch number printed in black like the company name and the exp date inked on all 5 rubbing off
5008
Batch number inked on and exp date inked on

Then I received 1 amp that actually has no batch number or exp date printed on it anywhere.
It just has the company logo printed on it.

All black dots are different sizes and there are no extra glass on top of the amps so it seems that they could be of lower quality which doesn't mean counterfeit but points in that direction.

All have the teacup handle but I imagine that counterfeiters have caught up and added the handle because that was the way to tell awhile back. The ink is also printed in different darkness some are printed bold and dark some are printed smaller and lighter.

The exp dates are all the same even on batch number 5008-6012. I thought that this was very strange.

All pictures of real and even fakes ive seen have the amp with the label like this
Testosterone enanthate
250mg/ml Only deep muscle injection
Then the cup with the handle aburaihan CO. Iran
Batch number printed on amp
Mfg number inked
Exp number inked

If you ordered 10 amps and received 5 different versions. Plus that aburaihan is supposed to be in white plastic trays and they are in clear plastic trays.
The trays and even the box and having multiple different batch numbers together I can understand because the way that they get it here makes sense that the original packaging wouldn't be included and the amps would be mixed up.
I wouldn't have questioned it except for receiving one amp without a batch, lot,mfg, or exp on it that looks like the counterfeiter just missed an amp and didn't run it through the machine.
There was no pamphlet which is understandable once again because it was probably ditched in the shipping process to lighten the load just like with the white plastic trays.

My question is though why are all the amps completely different than any fake or real amp from aburaihan testosterone enanthate that you can see in Google images. I do know that they change the way that they produce the amps to fight against counterfeiting but this seems not what is happening here.

Please anyone who has any experience with these amps please give me your opinion.
When in doubt throw them out and I will because I can't verify that there real unless someone else can.
I posted the src not to give them a bad name but im sorry I tried to talk with them first and they said the normal response they are straight from the pharmacy. Then told me to send them to be tested.
Im sure that they can come from a pharmacy but counterfeits have known to make there way into legitimate pharmacies in certain parts of the world. Also im sure that there is testosterone enanthate in the amps but I ordered aburaihan testosterone because I wanted to try testosterone made by them if I just wanted testosterone I would have ordered from my regular pharma grade provider that I have authenticated the amps from.

Please give me your opinion real or counterfeit?
How would you feel getting 5 different versions of amps in a 10 pac of amps?

Thanks brothers I appreciate everyone's help with this. Including the src if they would like to explain how one amp literally has zero information while others have the information printed incorrectly as to what I have seen in every Google image available. I couldn't find amps that looked like any that I have received.

I honestly hope that im completely wrong and I will write an apology to the src for this situation.

Thanks again
Bm

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Gettingbig's picture

I know for a fact that one is definitely fake the other 9 possibly are.
Many other members agree.
Im just trying to post up what's actually happening. Im asking for someone to help me verify if im wrong or right and it looks like 90 % agree im write.
Done deal im just going to order the other domestic brand that they have and I like.
They still have my business but trying to discuss these amps being real or fake is just a conversation no slander.

@ugfreak I apologize if you think that this is slander because I will still be ordering your other domestic options

Gettingbig's picture

I can send to jano or lab4tox but that will just prove that it is testosterone enanthate
I wanted to try actual aburaihan testosterone enanthate

You keep using the word fake
There not fake they are counterfeit and I don't know if they all are the ones that match the box which is 5 could and are probably real but the other 5 are very questionable.

Pale's picture

Fake is easier to type with my thumb on my phone. I just skeptical until and unless I see proof

Gettingbig's picture

Not at all I actually said that the source might not even know and im asking other members there opinions.
I have not said one bad thing about ukgear because he was great to order from but I don't believe that I will be ordering pharma grade in the future just other brands

Strangelanguage's picture

Personally I would still run it even if they are counterfeits, it's no different than other UGL's. We would hope anyway

Gettingbig's picture

They separate everything for transport so say that they take 100 boxes that's 1000 amps 500 amps stay behind that are real and then 500 amps that are real and fake get sent.
The boxes are just a smoke screen to cover up the fake amps mixed in.
I wouldn't have made a big deal of this except for I know for a fact that 1 amp is 100% counterfeit. The one with zero ink or print no batch lot or mfg or exp no amps come like that.

Pale's picture

You are playing with fire.

tattoofreak's picture

This is the second post here where you recommend to use aspen and you are talking about a source with a good price. Seems like fishing for new customers!!!

Gettingbig's picture

That's not good pounds don't do that because you know that pale or Greg will rip you

sunamcaxa's picture

thb I don’t bother anymore buying or searching real pharma except pct because almost every time I ended up with fakes

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Gettingbig's picture

This was my test order with ugfreak so now I know
Thanks brother

jp82088's picture

I am not sure your question but the picture of your box packaging posted of the Iran test e are real. Iran recently started using the Ministry of health serial #s similar like Turkey to lower counterfeits.

Now to answer your question about Amps.....

Older batches were printed on and later transitioned being scribed on like the rest of the writing on the amp.

Also Turkey has a deal with Iran to allow import for these products.

The App can be downloaded for Android it is called TTAC.IR Unfortunately, its in arab and can't understand how to use it.

Hope all is well

Gettingbig's picture

Yeah Google translate doesn't work with the app.
Sucks

Dope's picture

I know arabic

Screenshot the app and send me photo i will say what it says

Respect

Dope

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ECinfidel's picture

Abu Rahain is Iranian brother. They speak Farsi. Different language/ same alphabet. I know some arabic as well, and Farsi is Greek to me.

Dope's picture

Im greek and i speak arabic :-)

I know iran is farsi , i thought he meant he cant read the turkish ministry app

My bad

Respect

Dope

P.s i have friend from iran , wrestler he said he can read this for you murph

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Gettingbig's picture

I appreciate it brother but in all honesty the box is real but the amps that are definitely counterfeit and there is atleast 1 but I believe its 5 don't belong in that box so its not even worth it but I really appreciate it brother
Much respect
Bm

Gettingbig's picture

Im going to redownload the app but I actually believe that the box is real I just don't believe that the amps are.

Gettingbig's picture

I can use Google translate I believe that the box is real im just not sure about all the amps being real.
I believe that some might be but others might not be.

I appreciate your help
Also hope everything is good with you also brother.
What happened you were always in the green.

jp82088's picture

I will check tonight and send you a pm

Anytime brother.

Everything is good here. Happy new year to you and your family.

Man I rather not talk about it I am not trying to create anymore problems :(

jp82088's picture

You are wrong they are still being produced that I am 100% sure on as I have some.

Gettingbig's picture

Hey brother do yours match the pictures I sent?
Any of the same batch numbers?

Gettingbig's picture

I contacted aburaihan and they said they do produce testosterone enanthate, nandrolone deconate, and testosterone propionate.
So they do atleast produce the product how many units im not sure.
Thanks brother

Gettingbig's picture

Gotcha brother its BIGMURPH brother I didn't realize who you were because you changed your avi lol
How's everything going

bane7373's picture

Id say their copies .

Gettingbig's picture

Counterfeit with real testosterone right?

bane7373's picture

Yes. Cause websites that sell 42 different brands have no quality control over what they sell.

ugfreak's picture

Quality control vs real/fake gear are two things. We care about the quality of the UGL gear we sell and got lots of lab tests that prove their worth. All the pharmacy products, they are HG. They come from pharmacies and are established manufacturers.

Gettingbig's picture

I would hope that if a src has an operation that they do control what they sell especially because this was a domestic order it didn't come from a 3rd party vendor this is there domestic operation. Atleast I believe that it is.
Who knows right lol