posted Fri, 08/09/2024 - 11:23
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+ 1 They are definitely getting younger these days .... 26 yr old has Heart Attack after competing
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There is no doubt this is all linked to the Massive influence some of these Steroid Influencers on Youtube have, more guys are now starting younger who don't even know how to construct a training programme let alone run a steroid cycle.
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Too much of compounds without proper knowledge and tracking of blood I assume.
Clot shot buddy convid
^^^^^^^yup!
Ranger3252I would not blame gear on this entirely. However, more people who are younger than most of us experienced AAS users, listened to training, knowledge and experience. I feel those of us who started in our mid to late 30s, had a good idea of our medical history along with family history. We also knew the importance of diet and bloodwork. Hopefully, this reverts back to the basics and younger adults seek this advice and wait to use things that change your life forever.
While some high-profile incidents of cardiac arrest among young athletes may make it seem like being fit and exercising all the time puts you at risk, in reality, these factors generally help your heart. Sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) is a rare phenomenon that can happen to anyone, and most cases in young athletes are due to underlying heart conditions that are genetic and go unrecognized.
I don’t mean to take away from The harm that even responsible use of PEDs can cause, especially when competing; low BF is awful for your organs & nervous system (nerves myelin sheath {a layer of pure fat insulating nerves & carrying their own unique signals} being too thin is what causes MS), blood pressure, diuretics, etc. but so many youngsters that are otherwise very healthy are dying from mainstream medical intervention in the form of a mislabeled vaccine in the thousands. I imagine it’ll continue for some time. It muddies the waters in terms of causality I imagine. This is a dangerous thing we do.
What about all the “perfectly healthy” young athletes suffering from heart attacks that don’t use steroids? Or just the massive increase of heart related illnesses and deaths in the last few years? I’m sure whatever is causing non-steroid users to die from heart attacks is also effecting steroid users. I think guys have always been careless with how they used gear, it’s just how it goes. We are obsessed with growing, if one makes me grow, 2 will make me grow more, that’s not a new mentality. Accessibility will for sure effect the numbers and social media idiots will effect it too, but I don’t know if I really blame them. The reason I say that is because the guys that are really over doing it, are the super extreme guys and I feel like those guys would’ve found it without social media and ran it till the shells fell off regardless.
Look at rich piana, if he was just getting famous right now, we would all 100% blame social media for what he’d be doing. And he started long before social media, it’s just the way he was.
Could've been blood pressure, electrolyte issue, shit lipids, genetic heart defect, clot, who knows? Buddy looked saucy. Can only assume he was running regular bloodwork and doing his best. Very sad. PEDs are not without risk. To get that large you have to push it for sure.
Diuretics
6 months now since you been on here - where are ya bro??!!!!!
anvilWould you also agree its the wide spread availability and affordability?
I pay like 1/10th what I paid for a vial back when I was in my 20s. I think was like 80$ for some test and I could only buy what he had, which was mostly test C.
I'm not so sure about the affordability factor, I think these new guys would still get hold of it even if they can't really afford to buy it. But the ease and availability factor definitely, if you think back in our days late teens and 20's - if you wanted gear then you had to know a guy who knew a guy Lol Normally that meant befriending Mr Big in the gym who was the main dealer for the area - now a lot of those guys back then would of simply told you to 'fuck off' and not sold to you if you had no business running them. They would of at least told you to keep training for another 6 to 12 months and to come back then Lol
One thing that I still find shocking is just how little respect so many of these new guys have towards anabolic steroids, they have no idea of the dangers they present and how life altering they actually can be. They just don't see them as a big deal to be getting into at all, like they are asking us 'do they order the Vanilla or Chocolate flavour Protein shake?! Which one is the tastiest.
No shit man….its just way too easy for anyone to get ahold of good juice and soooooo many different compounds….early 2000 I had to find a shady website that someone told me about send off money and hopefully get my gear in 10-12 weeks time or even the “gym guy” wasn’t super consistent with having gear and even so was just test or sust decca nd dbol definitely didn’t have a place like this where it’s absolutely a one stop shop yes I know review site….but cmon let’s not kid ourselves you can find every single PED available and I can’t imagine having that when I was 24-25 and invincible and knew everything lol
anvilYeah for sure, all involved who you know. No advice given just test bottles and finding a way to get pins some how.
To be fair it’s probably a lot more than test. Tren , nandrolone, mast, and a bunch of orals under his belt most likely as well.
Dude was a big boy he was probably on a lot of gear.
anvilAbsolutely correct plus, he was going for his pro card. We are just kinda discussing about the difference social media, availability and affordability put these youngsters are risk even further.
I like the way diuretics have got the blame, all down to flushing the water out of system - nothing at all to do with steroids. These ridiculous excuses that are always used for their deaths make it look even worse than it already is.
anvilThey are really dangerous, and you since you already at 3-4% bf it doesn't take much.
Ya see you were also forced to do your research back then too, you had to find out yourself how much to inject, when, how to inject etc so all the lazy arses who just want a quick and easy answer to get a quick result also had to apply themselves to running them. That generally sorted the wheat from the chaff in who was committed and who wasn't, that followed suit in terms of who went to the gym and lifted because they really enjoyed it and wanted to be there.