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Test-E 750 mg weekly
Tren-A 150 mg ED Total 1050 mg weekly
Mast-P 150 mg ED Total 1050 mg weekly
EQ 900 mg weekly
Anadrol 100 mg ED
Size and Mass
Never used Anadrol before but what do you think about this lay out right here?
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AnonYou aiming for a lean bulk for the EBC? If you're looking to come in even dryer you shouldn't be using longs at all come pic time. I'd make all of your plans and goals common knowledge bro. Cuz depending on your goal your set up will be different.
What do you think about addainh low dose of decades for joints or should I stick to fig oil lol
Oh wow I read it fast u mean for first pic well now I put on few pounds weight up to 200lbs then I was going to lean up later
U mean entry pics on 28th I thought that was the point by the next pic
Show progress of leaning up running or do u mean my whole cycle should be changed b4
AnonNo bro like I said in PM your stack will change at the end of cycle. This is the advanced section so I'm assuming you're ready for this. Bodybuilders wouldn't run long esters into a comp. Long esters hold onto to much hormone which can cause added water. Your cycle is a lean/dry bulk. Basically you wanna get big but hold little water by end of the EBC right? Noid laid out a good stack for this goal. But if I were you I'd consider a tweak and try dropping the longs to shorts by end of cycle. EQ is a good dryer anabolic as it improves rbc and endurance so if used correctly and with self control(EQ hunger is killer) it's ok. But IMO it should have been used as part of a bulk being it's a highly anabolic compound. Also the end of this prep you'll want to drop your test base dose. So if you run TestP to taper this prep Id lower the dose and up the mast which will be MastP and up the Var the last couple weeks. This is why. They're the androgens. Androgens make you hard. They don't aromatize nearly as much as anabolic hormones. They're also both DHT derivative steroids. So they'll dry you out and neither aromatize. Now the difference between MastE and P isn't much. Same hormone. But that little bit of extra water is enough to make a difference when it counts.
I think you'll be just fine with a stack like this
Wks 14-5 TestC 750mg
Wks 14-5 Mast E 600mg
Wks 14-7 Tren A 100mg daily
Wks 4-1 TestP 50-75mg daily
Wks 4-1 MastP 100mg daily
Wks 7-1 Var 100mg daily
The dosages are estimates. You may need to tweak them for personal preference based on results. Don't forget the AI and caber always wanna have them on hand. Same with supps. B-complex and VitC are great for water control. Peptides are another great tool I think I've read that you've got some experience with them.
RustyhookerCurious as to why drop tren 7 Weeks out?
AnonI think it might cut him up too much if he was running it to end the cycle. Might turn it into a full out cutter. He's wanted a lean dry bulk it seems like. The test will add the bulk and the tren at the front end will harden him up fast and the end of cycle the var will add even more fullness. The mast is there for hardness aggression and hopefully bring out some striations. Well that's what should happen if he eats and trains right.
RustyhookerAhhh! That makes sence. Would suck to be dialed in then drop mass.
That's why I'm I might bulk instead
Oh CD you calling me out lol jkn I'm doing lean bulk still even though guitarplayer gave something to think about my metabolism is super fast maybe a straight bulk might be better cause my body always fights to stay lean do want to look like I'm recomp instead of a leanbulk think I'm I am saying right
well whats the purpose of switching to shorts?
IMO a guy trying to come in at 10%bf shouldnt even bother with switching to shorts.
AnonSwitching to shorts is a perfect way to make any fine tuning adjustments when you're close to your end goal. You can't really do that with longs at a seconds notice.
He can definitely accomplish any goal with longs. But come the end of his run with longs if you miss your target you can't tweak your cycle like you can with shorts. More control. More flexibility. Obviously diet is huge but control over dosages helps too
I got it CD now. wrote this b4 I pm you. I thank you again and roid noid for time you didn't have to even help but you did I'm getting notebook out
right now to write this down in advanced cycles I'm assuming bcuz I experimented with different compounds I'm glad I was accepted I do pay close attention to my body have all AI I need just n case ESP for gyno as for vitC on the way ordered it been reading about that in forum read vike uses it to keep water down I think it was 3000mg daily. Peptides ghrp6 and cjc work great for me body fat stayed low pct felt better then my last one b4 I took peps I thought people wsx just talking smack but they work can't wait until I try hgh. I thank GWop for putting me on to peps helped me out alot among other great members that really care
im curious to know what is sic's BF% goal come EBC?
I guess 10% I've gained some weight now I know its water I can take another body pic soon need practice on poses still anyway wouldn't mind some pointers I'm 199 to 200lbs ish each morning up down lol
My goal for body fat not sure but have a question though its really for
Me do u think I should do straight bulker I believe I can pull this cycle off lol what's you guys opinion
AnonVery true. From his pix he's a pretty lean guy. There's definitely some potential for size and bf control with him.
I know this is the advanced section, but why are you wanting to run everything so high? If you're gonna play around with ratios and doses I don't know if I'd start that high. That's a lot compared to your last run. Just curious why.
I was not going to start that high that was right out of my book
Ok, I was damn that's a big jump! Lol
well first off we need weeks.
I know they say low Test and high Tren, and I know diet is key but I am trying to play around with this cycle and have both the Tren and Test high. Also I know the Tren would keep me lean and drop the fat but wouldnt EQ do the same thing? Kind of new at posting so as you ask the questions I will answer because I have it in my notes, in my handy dandy notebook lol. And guess what my notes are sh**y and my wife is helping me rewrite it.
Sorry about how long run it each compound
so you still havent laid out how many weeks you plan on running each compound, thats kind of important.
Tren ace 6 weeks only
Test e 1-14
EQ 1-14
Bcuz need to be ran long to get the benefits have not used it that long b4 adrol
ok so with this cycle I would tweak it a little. high dose EQ with tren gives me some shitty anxiety so im glad your dropping the tren, but I would run it till the EQ kicks at week 8. also the anadrol I would leave out and replace with a couple choices, either var or winny weeks 8-15, it will help reduce the loss of the tren. so heres my advice.
test-e 1-14 750mg/w
EQ 1-14 900mg/w
mast-e 1-14 500mg/w
tren-a 1-8 100mg/d
var 8-15 100mg/d
thats a very solid dry cycle that you should get some great results from. You could probably lower that EQ to 600mg/w and still be just fine but your choice.
Noid about the ace right I change my mind added it back right. I have question though when u run test tren do u have test higher then tren or other way around which is better for you
for me its low test less sides, results wise I have found that 350-400mg/w(test) with tren works better. with this cycle you could run your test as low as 200-250mg/w and everything would work just fine
I might have to.drop EQ just run it.run the rest
Will do car definitely should I put put in test p until mast e kicks in or no can't wait to start cycle I will be able to takes notes as I go along on cycle this is probably a stupid question did or do take notes noid or do keep everything down In your head
I dont think youll need test-p, might see a little bit of 19nor sides from the tren but I would guess youll be fine, might think the tren is bunk or want to up the dose but wait for it, when everything kicks week 3-4 some sides might start showing up.
Noid have a question would I benefit from tne as preworkout
This is my first week using it and holy shit I love it. Using suspension tho water based.
Mines is oil what dose do u use
100mgs. Pin it about 2 hours before you lift. If you havent used it yet after your first time you'll see how long it takes to kick. I thought 45mins would be enough for mine since its water based but it still took like 2 hours and kicked in hard when i got back from the gym. All amped up in my room at midnight lol. So ive found that pinning it and leaving for the gym about and hour and a half later is perfect. But Tne being oil based apparently takes a little long to kicking so i thought 2 hours would work, thats what most say about tne.
Thanks irongame can't wait to try it do u pin on leg days or when you feel u need the boost
lol got it specifically for leg days. Actually had alot of fun on leg day last week. But its a addicting man also used it on shoulder day and arm day and back day. But I only have one amp left and I'm saving it for leg day this week. Its alot different then I expected it but its awesome the pumps on arm day were crazy. Got more on the way. Best if you could leave it for just leg day but I'm also thinking about using it on arm day each week cause they constantly lag behind.
depends upon what you like. I dont use it but a lot of people do. I generally use a preworkout only a few times a week, and normally right before i go to gym. TNE takes a few hours to kick in for me and my schedule can change at any time as i do service work.
Roid question read about eq test u drop yours a week b4 test right bcuz I was curious how they say u can run eq with no test for a week or two with.no problems what's your opinion
im not sure i understand this question but ill answer what i think your asking. So yes for natty you stop EQ atleast one week before test some like to do it 2. As for running EQ with no test? not sure what the benefit of this would be? can it be done with little to no VISIBLE sides? sure! you can probably run EQ by itself for a month or more before seeing/feeling sides. your natural test will slowly decline from the EQ until you start to feel like shit. that is across the board with many steroids.
You hit on the button noid thank you you are on try right so you probably run both same length
This will be my fist time its n oil guess I will start with 50mg
I agree I don't think he's gonna need test p. sure his levels aren't gonna be 4000 after a week or 2 but they will be good enogh to keep you feeling good and everything workin then by week 3 or 4 they will be pretty high.
RustyhookerRun tren a before?
Yes last cycle ran 8 weeks stated at 50mg ed went up to 75 ed then 100 ed was too much kept at 75 ed cause I notice eod I used to get those sides people talk about lol guess anxiety I didn't notice first my wife did. ed was better
Rustyhooker75ed was a nice dose here too. Roid has the skill for your post. I was just getting lead in question started for priors. I'll be watching and learning
I'm watching and learning to.