posted Tue, 12/22/2015 - 05:55
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What is everyone's thoughts on fasted cardio. I'm killing fat but am I killing my gains?
Wake up drink 1 scoop aminos and hit it 45 minutes.
Can I possibly be burning muscle too?
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Did fasted cardio, I would not say it was stressful for muscles. Aminos /protein should prevent you from killing your gains.
Yeah but you can be your classic person whose like "UNLESS ITS PROVEN, I WONT" which is fine.. but show me all the studies of general things which are directed towards anabolics in the test subjects (I highly doubt there are many or if are, not very reliable)
As illustrated, the hormone side of HIIT is what makes it superior in the same time period.
Skipping is also a VERY good piece of cardio if your wanting endurance benefits (depending on how your doing it), calories burnt in short period (depending on your fitness + intensity)
"I'm using low dose anabolics could I still be going catabolic?" Your catabolic 24 hours a day, its a process like most in the body which doesn't ever stop, but the opposite side of things is there also alongside adjustments of hormones throughout the 24 hour period. + remember, HIIT can actually create muscle tissue (NATURAL) so think what you can do if your smart about recovery, nutrition and on performance drugs.
Eating 6-8 meals isn't going to be more efficient than say 3 meals but thats down to individuals lifestyle / wishes. As you illustrate "CALORIE DEFICIT" - the important part of reducing bodyfat - don't just guess it, just work it out online and roughly accordingly to your days energy expenditure (your only hindering your results in general by being foolish not taking 10-20 minutes online).
What we hitting tonite?? Back is sore...tut is beating me up good!!
bigdsince83Shoulders, traps?
Bis, tris?
Legs tomorrow if ur recovered
Shoulders n traps...u working now.??
For starters, you DON'T need to be doing cardio for 45 minutes - HIIT for 8-12 minutes is PLENTY coupled with a nutritional diet focused towards reducing bodyfat. If your taking anabolics the question in hand is completely different, I personally do the following for photoshoots when cardio is introduced;
200mg caffeine
15g L-Glutamine
5g BCAA Blend (ensuring the L-Leucine isn't crap amount).
(I'd do this regardless if on anabolics or natural status).
The benefits of Growth Hormone following HIIT + time required against other alternatives such as LISS, make it a CLEAR winner in my eyes.. You legs will even grow purely from doing HIIT (given the nutrition is there to do so)
If your not remotely even looking at your nutrition (calories), worrying about cardio is the least of your problems..
bigdsince838-12 minutes? Seems low but how would 12 minutes be beneficial? Assuming my diet and calories are on point and I eat 6 to 8 meals a day but am still in a calorie deficit when would cardio be most beneficial? And I'm using low dose anabolics could I still be going catabolic?
12 minutes of truly intense HIIT can burn a lot of calories. But really the benefits from hiit come from the hormonal cascades that ensue. IGF-1, HGH, (if not cycle test as well), all rise from hiit. As with any exercise, but HIIT brings them on as effectively as other forms. I remember reading a study on it... let me try and dig it up.
Not only that but there are other in-muscle markers that rise from HIIT improving insulin senstivity in the muscle and nitrogen retention.
On a good day I can burn about 200kcal in 12minutes of intense HIIT. But man I'm whooped after it. Being so busy I love HIIT and other forms of high intensity exercise
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=HIIT+Human+growth+hormone
abstract, shows more carb oxidation in HIIT (its why I use it as fasted cardio, runs through carb stores fast) and higher growth hormone levels. Cortisol and ACTH were higher as well, but that is from the intensity and your body trying to mobilize fuel sources. Insulin was lower as well -> improved sensitivity.
There's no real evidence that cardio in a fasted state has any benifits on body compostion over cardio in a fed-state. A recent study has even shown investigated specificly this. If you still want to do fasted cardio out of convenience and general feel, I'd highly suggest of taking some form of protein to you.