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So I'm not ready to add compounds to help with weight loss yet but I should be soon. In the past 3 weeks I've lost 16 lbs and once I lose about ten more I'm planning on implementing things to help. Here's what I'm considering but would like to hear your opinions on what works and what's a waste of money or too dangerous. I'm not willing to die to lose weight lol

Cardarine, clen, yohimbine, ephedrine.

Those are the ones I am considering, leaning mostly towards cardarine and clen. What do you guys think? And am I missing anything?

I'm already dieting really strictly and walking daily and running 2-3 times a week.

Makwa's picture

If you are above 12% BF or so, all that is completely unnecessary. It is just diet at this point. Can't really speed up the process. Easy to lose fat at the BF% you are at. You have plenty of it so the body is not to worried about losing it and it comes off fast just being in a calorie deficit. Once you get leaner, your body will try to hold on to it more and it becomes more of a struggle to lose it. That is when you can start implementing fat burners to speed up the metabolism. Before that you are just wasting them and putting your body through unnecessary hardships. You also build up a tolerance to most of them. so what are you going to do when you get to the point where you could actually benefit from using them??

Sackbird's picture

Cardarine at 20mg daily made me apathetic towards lifting and life in general. I’m considering trying it again but staying at 10mg. I haven’t heard too many people experiencing how I felt though. Maybe I’m the anomaly.

Caloric deficit is always king. I’ve lost 60lbs since August staying in a strict deficit but weight loss has really slowed down for me recently. That’s why I’m considering trying the cardarine again along with the deficit.

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Also, I would wait until the weight loss from diet and cardio slows down significantly before adding stuff to accelerate it. The only reason I’m considering adding the cardarine now is because I’ve already lost ~60lbs and it has become difficult to lose anymore. I went from losing 10+ lbs a month down to maybe 1-2lbs a month. Think of it similarly to waiting to start gear until you’ve reached your maximum potential naturally. It will do you better once you’ve done everything you can without the drugs.

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SeeOhShow's picture

No need for drugs man. Nothing magically makes you burn more calories. Weight loss is purely diet mathematics. Cals in - cals out = goal. Just keep on trucking ahead and stay mentally tough. You’ll get there in the same amount of time with or without drugs if your calorie balance stays the same.

Shitsy43's picture

I've already lost nearly twenty pounds from dieting and cardio. Just realized that I need to lose probably about twenty more. My muscles look so much better and more prevalent, it's pretty awesome I just want to get to my goal a little quicker so I can start my cycle, guess I'm just being impatient lol

Mdes's picture

Focus on diet and exercise . Forget the clen and ephedrine. Yohimbine and carderine will work great with the right diet and cardio . No need for clen . Unless you’re getting down to below 5% for a show , no need . Even then I would opt out of clen just from the side effects

Shitsy43's picture

I am dieting and doing cardio, not a ton of it though because I want to leave myself room to add more. Keto has done me pretty good especially with intermittent fasting

wanted's picture

You havent lost muscle intermittent fasting

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No, longest I've fasted is about 16 or 17 hours and that's like once a week maybe twice. I've been making sure to get my protein though

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Oh okay cool. Cause i fasted everyday for almost 1&1/2 years. Getting in all my macros during my eating window but needed anabolics to keep from losing muscle. Im glad to hear your success so far man.

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Shitsy43's picture

Thanks, if anything so far my muscles look bigger but I'm sure it's not because they're bigger but because they have less fat around them lol. I'm cutting so I can do anabolics. I feel like and have heard that it's a waste of you're overweight.

Shitsy43's picture

Cardarine was my top pick anyway and maybe the ketones.

DCBG78's picture

If you want to lose weight, use a GLP-1. Mounjaro is the best. Eat a shit ton of protein. You won’t have an appetite so use that to figure out how to eat right. That’s your safest way.

Shitsy43's picture

That's semaglutide isn't it? Doesn't that basically work by making you not hungry and letting you starve yourself? I've heard a lot of bad things about it like once you stop taking it you just end up gaining the weight back due to your body not naturally producing a certain hormone afterwards.

DCBG78's picture

Semaglutide is one of them. What you read is BS. Mostly super fat people that just eat less McDonald’s than changing the way you eat. You can drop weight on it but have to lift heavy weights and eat tons of protein. I dropped 40 pounds in a year and gained a bit of strength during that time. Been off for a few months and no regain. Worst side effect is a bit of nausea. It’s legit. Use it to drop the weight and change your approach to diet. Then rebuild from there.

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Is it easy to get prescription or something that's more convenient to just buy from online sources? Reason I ask is I have insurance and probably wouldn't have to pay for it. What about muscle wasting? I've heard that happens on it and I want to avoid losing the muscle I've spent years building. Hell I'm just recently able to actually see it all after losing about twenty pounds lol

DCBG78's picture

Lots of online doctors will prescribe. Talk to your doctor too. You won’t lose muscle if you eat protein, whole grain and healthy fats. You won’t be hungry so you have to make a plan. Lots of chicken, eggs, fruits, veggies, rice, oats etc. eliminate the processed foods and sugar. People don’t eat or lift when they take it and they lose muscle. Neither me nor my wife lost muscle and both lost significant weight. It’s just a tool to let you dial in your diet if you struggle with food.

Shitsy43's picture

Gotcha I probably don't really need it then because I'm doing fine with my diet.

SeeOhShow's picture

Mounjaro is trizepatide. Same thing basically as semaglutide. Folks gain the weight back because they never established healthy habits and used the drug as a crutch for losing weight. Once the drug is gone, they go back to their bad habits and eating those random snacks throughout the day that add up to being in a surplus.

Shitsy43's picture

Gotcha, yeah that sounds about right lol. I have the diet down and exercise. I just don't want to hit a wall and stop losing weight lol

SeeOhShow's picture

Just keep doing your thing man. You’ve already lost a good bit so you’re on the right track. Weight loss also isn’t linear. It’s fast at first due to glycogen and water retention changes. People attribute that to fat loss and then think they hit a “wall.” Nope just the real fat loss has started and it’s a slower process. You might notice nothing for 2 weeks then bam 3lbs lighter on week 3. Slow and steady wins this race.

Shitsy43's picture

Gotcha thanks pal, I'm pretty proud of it I guess I'm probably being impatient lol

Shitsy43's picture

Lol ephedrine is the only one I have tried. But cardarine sounds nice as long as it's not a high dose.

Shitsy43's picture

Also does anyone have experience with bhb exogenous ketones?