good gains with poor diet
im somewhere between an ectomorph and mesoporh. i have some dificulty gaining weight and keeping it. I am borderline hyperthyroid though. i keep a close eye on it. when i am on cycle I pretty much eat anything i want to eat whenever i want to eat. i have no set rules for intra cycle diet, just eat eat eat. I do have very strict supplement guidelines though. funny thing is I dont put any fat on during cycle. i get well over 5000 calories of not great food and still stay lean as hell. does anyone else experience this as well. i know i should focus on eating healthy during cycle. I did eat a very strict diet for years. I ate a whole foods paleo diet for several years. i had no dairy at all in my diet. no beef, milk, cheese, or such. i gave up that diet, i couldnt gain and i never got the right carbs so i always felt run down.
since i pretty much eat what i feel like eating now, i feel better and gain better.
I dont eat candy, or junk food though.
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Everyone responds different. What works for one guy may overtrain another. I say stick with what you find works best for YOU.
If you can eat what you want and get away without putting on fat then go with it. I do the same thing with a combo of "good" food choices along with "bad" to make up for the calories/protein/carbs that I am looking to get in daily. Every meal does not have to be pizza, ice cream, sushi, etc but more of a balance. Make sure you are getting proper vitamins, etc from good food. This has worked for me and then when I want to get a more defined look I will eliminate the junk food.
this is exactly what i have been doing.
SwoleOnDbolIn all honesty this is what has worked the best for me. I still monitor protein intake and such, but I get it from smashing down pasta, pizza, flavoured milk, whatever. I've never looked or felt better In my life either.
It's all about calories in, being higher than calories burned.
But you'd want to be taking a multi-vitamin to hit your micro nutrients.
exactly what i do!!!
There are several guys on here that will run what's called a dirty bulk. Basically you just shoot for a set number of calories per day and eat whatever you want, within reason I would think. A nutritionist will tell you that all calories are not created equal. But there are many scientist who simply look at a calorie as a unit of energy and believe a calorie is a calorie no matter how you look at it. It ultimately comes down to how efficiently your body is able to utilize what you take in. If your plan of action is bringing about the results you want, then go with it. Just don't neglect your overall health. Keep an eye on blood sugar, cholesterol, vitamin and mineral levels etc.
AnonHave you ever been tested for gluten allergies?
no i havent. how would a gluten allergy effect me or play a role in weight gain.
Anon"Some people who have celiac disease or gluten sensitivity are underweight because their gluten issues prevent them from absorbing nutrients. So you may actually need to gain weight to be at the peak of health.
When you go gluten-free, your gut usually heals quickly, and you begin to absorb nutrients and calories. Your weight usually normalizes quickly simply as a result of being gluten-free.
Sometimes when people go gluten-free, they inadvertently cut calories by leaving out things like bread and butter. If you’re already underweight, you may need to supplement a healthy diet with high-calorie foods like nuts, avocados, tuna, and salmon."
It causes a thick mucousy lining around the stomach walls and stops ur body from absorbing nutrients, not only that the body works overtime to combat the allergens/proteins much like it would a flu.. It sends out massive amounts of histamine constantly! People rarely develop hives unless theyre super sensitive but if you suffer from secondary symptoms such as fatigue, poor weight gain, depression, stomach cramps and or mucousy poos you should really check it out mate ;) fatty foods and high calorie foods wouldnt be so bad for you as every calorie counts... and due to hypothyroidism nearly always being a result of low calorie intake (better described as low calorie absorption)
Then im thinking one of two things here.. You either DONT get enough calories in your diet or theres something restricting your body from processing it!
thank you. ill look into it. I have a family history of thyroid disease. my 6 yr old son in on cynthoid 2 out of 3 of my siblings are on meds, and so are both parents. i do believe it was probably environmental. but no way to tell now
AnonDamn thats not good mate! Hope your kids are ok! And yeh its quite strange if both parents have it altho not rare.. Hypothyroidism is not hereditary altho some diseases that cause it are! Also if both parents 'developed' it theres a good chance it was probably something in the diet.. Or 'not' in the diet! I think from memory a lack of 'iodine' can cause hypothyroidism but thats a rare thing these days! Most table salt are packed with iodine so its not likely.. Bro trust me ive struggled to gain weight since highschool! I used to be one of the tallest in my class! I was also one of the fittest in the school and possibly the smartest.. Then i had some things happen to my family that ruined my life! I went to shit man.. Suffered serious post traumatic depression for years! I lost my appetite for life man.. The same thing happened to my little bro he doesnt eat nearly enough anymore! Stress can ruin a persons appetite and then we spend forever trying to find reasons other than the truth!
If your eating a calorie deficit diet your never ever ever goin to gain weight! And the truth is ur much better off eating junk food to get ur calories in than you are being on a calorie deficient diet if ur like us.. An ectomorph!
Ive pretty much dedicated this new cycle im on to bulking.. Any which way i can! Whether its tuna nuts avacodo and such or just a mcdonalds and bacon diet i really dont mind lol! Im confident that if i do gain a heap of fat there shouldnt be much of a problem losing it :/
But seriously.. Consider the gluten thing cause thats definitely hereditary ;) and can lead to hypothyroidism if white breads pastas and such are your only source of carbs.. Due to gluten sensitivty etc.. Anyways hope it helps bro