Very nice progress there. Your username is so fitting. Imagine what your physique would look like in another 1.5 years bro. Legs should always be number one priority, your upper body will just grow from doing intense squats alone. Keep it going!
You’re tall, so filling out the frame naturally takes a bit more time and consistency, regardless of whether someone leans more meso/endo/ecto. But you’re clearly doing things right.
Keep your mind on the goal, not the barriers … those get crushed along the way. You’re on a solid path.
I'll go ahead and say it, dude a person your size has ZERO business taking 400mg of tren. None at all. And someone your size shouldn't be taking 700mg of EQ either, as stated in another one of your posts. I'm glad you are bettering yourself, that is awesome. Keep it up. But quit taking a bunch of fucking gear dude. You're scrawny as fuck and I PROMISE you it ain't gonna do what you want it to do. You'll do more damage to your body than you will progress, I promise. What you need to do is dial your diet it. And don't tell me you've dialed it in already, if that was true then you wouldn't be scrawny as fuck still taking all the gear you've taken
Hey sorry I kinda pushed back at you, I felt a little shit on. Yeah youre right I have taken an excessive amount and 400mg is a lot of tren, although im only on 600mg combined injectable and im pulsing adrol. I dont respond to gear that well. I was 130 pounds at 6ft when I started lifting, 155lbs when I started gear. Ive put on a solid 20lbs on gear, I think it would have been more like 30lbs if it weren't for a broken hand, a divorce and other life stuff that knocked me off course for stretches of time over the past year.
But youre just looking out for my health so thanks dude. I know im taking risks, and I acknowledge and accept them.
God bless, stay safe and I'll see ya around
And let me go ahead and tell you why I wont post pictures of myself here, not yet at least.
Because I was fucking retarded and ran tren and deca without knowing what I was doing and got gyno. So no, not until I get my body where I want it to be will I post pictures of myself here. I WISH I had someone like myself back then, shooting me straight and advising me not to run 2 19 nors at the same time with myself being a high aromatizer. I really really wish I had that. But I didn't, and I fucked up. So if I can be as real as possible with someone else about to make a similar mistake as me, then I will be. It's all out of love anyways, not hate. I think I made that clear. So I ask you to be real with this kid, and not sugarcoat shit. Someone of his size has ZERO reason to be running tren at 400mg per week. You know that's right. You know I'm right. So let's be real here
I’ve made my mistakes too, and listen that’s up to you to say what you’d like to see. I don’t even disagree. I just think showing some credibility would be a plus
I already said I'm glad he's bettering himself and to keep it up. But pushing the compounds he's pushing at his size is counterproductive, that's it. That is the cold hard truth. Coddling this kid does nothing but make him think he is making the right choices. He is not, and I call it how I see it. This is retarded. Only advanced users need to be messing with tren, not someone who is on their second cycle and weighs less than 175lbs. I would even go as far as saying no one but pro bodybuilders should be taking tren. I have taken it, and I learned the hard way that tren has no business in beginner or even intermediate gear users cycles.
I agree. Tren is unnecessary especially if the goal is size alone. I had gyno myself (got the surgery) years back. I did everything the way I thought it should be done, used pharma ai everything and still got it cuz tren (and I think Anadrol) I think I got by another direct mechanism that wasn’t e2 related. Then I dragged and crashed caber and also felt like utter shit from that for a little
Then why are you encouraging the kid instead of being real with him and telling him he is making a stupid mistake. The coddling makes him think yall got his back which is stupid
Do not sit here and coddle this kid. Don't do it. Be fucking real, kid is on entirely too much gear for someone of his size. I know 245 pound men that take 1/4 of the amount of gear as him and are twice his size
I appreciate what you are saying about his steroid use and what he wants to run, it is over the top and he shouldn't be running those compounds or amounts. I see that as something for him to make his mind up on because us giving him a hard time over it isn't going to change what he is going to ultimately do. He's been on here a while and knows whats sensible and what isn't. I'm also not going to be negative towards him, and instead try and help on the basic things that he isn't likely to be doing - its more productive to be positive and helpful with him than just be a cunt.
His first posts?? Dude look at what he's posting now
Talking about taking 400mg of tren and anadrol and reta and 5iu of growth this and that and this and that. Dude ain't learned shit. And has put on a grand total of .5lbs in 1.5 years. Come on dude
Yeah but based on your other posts you haven't learned shit from the tons of people telling you you're taking too much gear. So that makes you actually retarded
Your Base build is very Ectomorphic like me mate - the main thing that will put weight on you is concentrating on what you eat in your diet buddy. I cannot stress this enough, but most of the things you read concerning gaining fat, diet plans and foods people eat are written by and aimed at guys who are endomorphic, mesomorphic and a combination of the 2 builds. These people have much slower metabolisms which means they require less carbs and fats and can concentrate on just consuming protein sources and rice and still gain weight and remain big. We need to hammer simple carbs constantly like White potatoes, white bread and pasta etc.
Simple sugars like Dextrose/glucose powder are also your friend and will put weight on you easily when put into drinks - I constantly do this. Our metabolism is simply so fast compared to others in that once we burn through a carb storage, our bodies then quickly move onto your limited muscle stores and destroy that too - so keeping a constant intake of fast, easily digested carbs is vital every few hours. Each meal have one of these carb sources alongside a protein source such as chicken or fish, cheese as an accompaniment also helps you gain weight as its a leucine rich protein, carb and fat source. Go heavy on sauces with food too like mayonnaise, creams etc. Other guys eating all these foods would get fat quick, but always remember its much harder for us to do that. You may already eat all these things, but with all that you can read in the forums regarding diet you have to remind yourself its different rules for us.
Solid thoughts brotha, ive always struggled to eat enough carbs. Oatmeal in smoothies is as close to dextrose as ive gotten, maybe its time to give it a go
Any go to recipes or hacks that make it easier to get down the carbs?
Dextrose powder SHIT'S all over oatmeal mate - oatmeal is a slow digesting carb source which is nowhere near as effective for us, it takes the body time for us to break it down which is fine if you have a medium to slow metabolism, but we don't - ours is like a furnace!! Put dextrose in fruit juices and cordials in the day, then use it in protein shakes and EAA's etc. Each meal just needs to be a basic combination of the things I have mentioned there.
Funny it’s like that for y’all, it’s the complete opposite for me. I shovel down to many simple carbs on a daily basis, and I’ll turn into fat bastard. I have to have my macros perfect with every meal. Literally weigh out every grain of rice. You know the +300 calorie, -300 calorie guys? Unfortunately that’s how I need to eat, or my progress will really stall in either direction with strength loss, or to much fat gain to fast.
Yep its difficult for either of us to understand just what it feels like to live in each others body, I'd love to have the genetics to be able to bulk to 240/250 no problems - can't even imagine it. Ecto's basically live on the constant verge of going catabolic especially if you are in an energetic or labourus job all day long. Our body and nervous systems burn out fast in the gym too and we can soon feel like shit if we over train - you guys on the other hand can perform 20 sets per body part and still gain strength and size, that stuff just doesn't work for us. We have shitty little appetites too with smaller stomachs so meal sizes have to be smaller and more frequent, which if you can only really eat every 5 hours whilst at work it makes it extremely tough to gain proper weight. I literally changed my job so I could eat more often during the day LOL
What sucks though is if guys like me don’t take any GLP’s, then we are constantly fighting food demons in our heads all the time. Literally will day dream of food day and night, this persists indefinitely on either a cut or a bulk. It is horrible when your like 16-20 weeks deep into a cut to, your constantly edging over food counting the hours down between all your meals. It got so bad after my last cut, that after I hit my weight goal. I instantly turned into a vacuum, and dirty bulked for 3 months. I went from 180 to 225 in that quick of a timeframe. I did generate some muscle tissue for sure, and got really fucking strong, but damn if I could just control myself more, I could have extended it for another few months. I’m now on GLP’s and holy fuck, I’m like a new man, my brain is so quiet now. I’m not constantly thinking about food no more. This cut I’m in now has been cake walk so far.
Ya see mate I would LOVE to feel like that, being able to eat all the time. If I were you with your ability to eat loads and obv can hold a lot of weight if you once managed to get to 300lb's - I would concentrate on becoming strong as absolute fuck and huge. Set yourself some mega lifting goals in bench and deadlifts and try and attain them. You can get some cardio in to keep you fit and keep on top of body fat levels and reap the rewards!! My limiting factor is getting in enough protein and food, but you won't have that issue so really could get to a great level if you wanted to. Honestly pal, those GLP's are my worst nightmare!!! Having ZERO appetite would be hell for me LOL
Thanks dude! Definitely a learning experience, and not a linear one either. Blew up, life happened, shrunk down, got it together again and pushed further.
One things for sure though, I'm a lifter for life now.
Yeah same with me bro, I was skinny then really fucking fat, like over 300lbs fat, then i leaned back down to 170. I built a good bit of muscle in that time as well. I've been lifting now for over 3 years at this point, and i cant imagine seeing myself quitting ever. Lifting has been my saving grace within life it's self. Before the gym, I was anxious and fat, depressed with zero self love or ambitions. It's like lifting really pulled the restrictors on my brain off, and i feel more free in everyday life. I am glad you are having fun, keep on growing brother man, and don't ever stop until you fucking die!
Lifting works Brilliant on Anxiety when you train especially if you enjoy heavy lifting, it burns away all the anxiety and build up nervous energy that can destroy your mind and inhibit you. I remember back when I was a kid about 12 years old and I bought a concrete 30kg weight set lol First time I ever used it in the lounge I got the BEST feeling ever from it during and afterwards. An indescribable feeling that made me feel so different and happy. I hate the periods when I am ill for weeks on end and all that anxiety can come back if you don't keep yourself active in other ways, which the weights normally take care of.
Yeah that’s the worst, getting sick or injured sucks ass. I fucking hate it so much, I’m currently going through that right now. All I think about is getting back under a bar and pressing it, or curling some dumbbells and just getting a pump. It’s been a few weeks now since I’ve been able to do that. I’m gonna be super fucking PUMPED up though when I can step foot back into a gym though. That’s gonna be a natural high that will carry me for months.
Very nice progress there. Your username is so fitting. Imagine what your physique would look like in another 1.5 years bro. Legs should always be number one priority, your upper body will just grow from doing intense squats alone. Keep it going!
You are making very good progress my dude. Out of curiosity, what is the tweety bird standing in front of?
A very average bulge
Fantastic progress! Keep eating!
Nice work, brother!
You’re tall, so filling out the frame naturally takes a bit more time and consistency, regardless of whether someone leans more meso/endo/ecto. But you’re clearly doing things right.
Keep your mind on the goal, not the barriers … those get crushed along the way. You’re on a solid path.
Keep pushing… let’s get huge, bro.
Or die trying. lol
Super positive vibes my man! You got me itchin to smash some PR's
That’s a really big diff in that time frame!
Thank you sir! Never going to be a big guy but I will continue to compete with myself!
You vs you is everything. Big is relative too, can be an aesthetic god tho
iCONicI'll go ahead and say it, dude a person your size has ZERO business taking 400mg of tren. None at all. And someone your size shouldn't be taking 700mg of EQ either, as stated in another one of your posts. I'm glad you are bettering yourself, that is awesome. Keep it up. But quit taking a bunch of fucking gear dude. You're scrawny as fuck and I PROMISE you it ain't gonna do what you want it to do. You'll do more damage to your body than you will progress, I promise. What you need to do is dial your diet it. And don't tell me you've dialed it in already, if that was true then you wouldn't be scrawny as fuck still taking all the gear you've taken
Hey sorry I kinda pushed back at you, I felt a little shit on. Yeah youre right I have taken an excessive amount and 400mg is a lot of tren, although im only on 600mg combined injectable and im pulsing adrol. I dont respond to gear that well. I was 130 pounds at 6ft when I started lifting, 155lbs when I started gear. Ive put on a solid 20lbs on gear, I think it would have been more like 30lbs if it weren't for a broken hand, a divorce and other life stuff that knocked me off course for stretches of time over the past year.
But youre just looking out for my health so thanks dude. I know im taking risks, and I acknowledge and accept them.
God bless, stay safe and I'll see ya around
Mate you can’t be saying this shit with 0 pics of yourself posted. I agree with him using less gear but it’s his choice
iCONicAnd let me go ahead and tell you why I wont post pictures of myself here, not yet at least.
Because I was fucking retarded and ran tren and deca without knowing what I was doing and got gyno. So no, not until I get my body where I want it to be will I post pictures of myself here. I WISH I had someone like myself back then, shooting me straight and advising me not to run 2 19 nors at the same time with myself being a high aromatizer. I really really wish I had that. But I didn't, and I fucked up. So if I can be as real as possible with someone else about to make a similar mistake as me, then I will be. It's all out of love anyways, not hate. I think I made that clear. So I ask you to be real with this kid, and not sugarcoat shit. Someone of his size has ZERO reason to be running tren at 400mg per week. You know that's right. You know I'm right. So let's be real here
I’ve made my mistakes too, and listen that’s up to you to say what you’d like to see. I don’t even disagree. I just think showing some credibility would be a plus
iCONicI already said I'm glad he's bettering himself and to keep it up. But pushing the compounds he's pushing at his size is counterproductive, that's it. That is the cold hard truth. Coddling this kid does nothing but make him think he is making the right choices. He is not, and I call it how I see it. This is retarded. Only advanced users need to be messing with tren, not someone who is on their second cycle and weighs less than 175lbs. I would even go as far as saying no one but pro bodybuilders should be taking tren. I have taken it, and I learned the hard way that tren has no business in beginner or even intermediate gear users cycles.
I agree. Tren is unnecessary especially if the goal is size alone. I had gyno myself (got the surgery) years back. I did everything the way I thought it should be done, used pharma ai everything and still got it cuz tren (and I think Anadrol) I think I got by another direct mechanism that wasn’t e2 related. Then I dragged and crashed caber and also felt like utter shit from that for a little
iCONicThen why are you encouraging the kid instead of being real with him and telling him he is making a stupid mistake. The coddling makes him think yall got his back which is stupid
iCONicI can and absolutely will. If I have to be the voice of reason then I will
Trens good for ya, got lots of nutrients
Keep up the great gains.
6'+ putting on size is tricky. I know the pains. Good job
iCONicGo back and read some of his other posts. Dude is a retard
Admittedly mate some of his first posts weren't great - but he is getting better and learning/listening now.
iCONicDo not sit here and coddle this kid. Don't do it. Be fucking real, kid is on entirely too much gear for someone of his size. I know 245 pound men that take 1/4 of the amount of gear as him and are twice his size
I appreciate what you are saying about his steroid use and what he wants to run, it is over the top and he shouldn't be running those compounds or amounts. I see that as something for him to make his mind up on because us giving him a hard time over it isn't going to change what he is going to ultimately do. He's been on here a while and knows whats sensible and what isn't. I'm also not going to be negative towards him, and instead try and help on the basic things that he isn't likely to be doing - its more productive to be positive and helpful with him than just be a cunt.
iCONicHis first posts?? Dude look at what he's posting now
Talking about taking 400mg of tren and anadrol and reta and 5iu of growth this and that and this and that. Dude ain't learned shit. And has put on a grand total of .5lbs in 1.5 years. Come on dude
Were all retarded until we learn better
This is very true lol
iCONicYeah but based on your other posts you haven't learned shit from the tons of people telling you you're taking too much gear. So that makes you actually retarded
Just tryna be like the cool kids ;)
Looking good bro.. nice work
Your Base build is very Ectomorphic like me mate - the main thing that will put weight on you is concentrating on what you eat in your diet buddy. I cannot stress this enough, but most of the things you read concerning gaining fat, diet plans and foods people eat are written by and aimed at guys who are endomorphic, mesomorphic and a combination of the 2 builds. These people have much slower metabolisms which means they require less carbs and fats and can concentrate on just consuming protein sources and rice and still gain weight and remain big. We need to hammer simple carbs constantly like White potatoes, white bread and pasta etc.
Simple sugars like Dextrose/glucose powder are also your friend and will put weight on you easily when put into drinks - I constantly do this. Our metabolism is simply so fast compared to others in that once we burn through a carb storage, our bodies then quickly move onto your limited muscle stores and destroy that too - so keeping a constant intake of fast, easily digested carbs is vital every few hours. Each meal have one of these carb sources alongside a protein source such as chicken or fish, cheese as an accompaniment also helps you gain weight as its a leucine rich protein, carb and fat source. Go heavy on sauces with food too like mayonnaise, creams etc. Other guys eating all these foods would get fat quick, but always remember its much harder for us to do that. You may already eat all these things, but with all that you can read in the forums regarding diet you have to remind yourself its different rules for us.
Solid thoughts brotha, ive always struggled to eat enough carbs. Oatmeal in smoothies is as close to dextrose as ive gotten, maybe its time to give it a go
Any go to recipes or hacks that make it easier to get down the carbs?
Dextrose powder SHIT'S all over oatmeal mate - oatmeal is a slow digesting carb source which is nowhere near as effective for us, it takes the body time for us to break it down which is fine if you have a medium to slow metabolism, but we don't - ours is like a furnace!! Put dextrose in fruit juices and cordials in the day, then use it in protein shakes and EAA's etc. Each meal just needs to be a basic combination of the things I have mentioned there.
Funny it’s like that for y’all, it’s the complete opposite for me. I shovel down to many simple carbs on a daily basis, and I’ll turn into fat bastard. I have to have my macros perfect with every meal. Literally weigh out every grain of rice. You know the +300 calorie, -300 calorie guys? Unfortunately that’s how I need to eat, or my progress will really stall in either direction with strength loss, or to much fat gain to fast.
Yep its difficult for either of us to understand just what it feels like to live in each others body, I'd love to have the genetics to be able to bulk to 240/250 no problems - can't even imagine it. Ecto's basically live on the constant verge of going catabolic especially if you are in an energetic or labourus job all day long. Our body and nervous systems burn out fast in the gym too and we can soon feel like shit if we over train - you guys on the other hand can perform 20 sets per body part and still gain strength and size, that stuff just doesn't work for us. We have shitty little appetites too with smaller stomachs so meal sizes have to be smaller and more frequent, which if you can only really eat every 5 hours whilst at work it makes it extremely tough to gain proper weight. I literally changed my job so I could eat more often during the day LOL
What sucks though is if guys like me don’t take any GLP’s, then we are constantly fighting food demons in our heads all the time. Literally will day dream of food day and night, this persists indefinitely on either a cut or a bulk. It is horrible when your like 16-20 weeks deep into a cut to, your constantly edging over food counting the hours down between all your meals. It got so bad after my last cut, that after I hit my weight goal. I instantly turned into a vacuum, and dirty bulked for 3 months. I went from 180 to 225 in that quick of a timeframe. I did generate some muscle tissue for sure, and got really fucking strong, but damn if I could just control myself more, I could have extended it for another few months. I’m now on GLP’s and holy fuck, I’m like a new man, my brain is so quiet now. I’m not constantly thinking about food no more. This cut I’m in now has been cake walk so far.
Ya see mate I would LOVE to feel like that, being able to eat all the time. If I were you with your ability to eat loads and obv can hold a lot of weight if you once managed to get to 300lb's - I would concentrate on becoming strong as absolute fuck and huge. Set yourself some mega lifting goals in bench and deadlifts and try and attain them. You can get some cardio in to keep you fit and keep on top of body fat levels and reap the rewards!! My limiting factor is getting in enough protein and food, but you won't have that issue so really could get to a great level if you wanted to. Honestly pal, those GLP's are my worst nightmare!!! Having ZERO appetite would be hell for me LOL
Nice work bud just make sure to hit your triceps extra that's what really makes your arms big but you look good (you look young as shit in the pics)
Thats 28-30 yo believe it or not lol
I smash about 10 sets of tricep isolation work a week, and to absolite fail
Looking good bro, nice gains in that years time!
Thanks dude! Definitely a learning experience, and not a linear one either. Blew up, life happened, shrunk down, got it together again and pushed further.
One things for sure though, I'm a lifter for life now.
Yeah same with me bro, I was skinny then really fucking fat, like over 300lbs fat, then i leaned back down to 170. I built a good bit of muscle in that time as well. I've been lifting now for over 3 years at this point, and i cant imagine seeing myself quitting ever. Lifting has been my saving grace within life it's self. Before the gym, I was anxious and fat, depressed with zero self love or ambitions. It's like lifting really pulled the restrictors on my brain off, and i feel more free in everyday life. I am glad you are having fun, keep on growing brother man, and don't ever stop until you fucking die!
Lifting works Brilliant on Anxiety when you train especially if you enjoy heavy lifting, it burns away all the anxiety and build up nervous energy that can destroy your mind and inhibit you. I remember back when I was a kid about 12 years old and I bought a concrete 30kg weight set lol First time I ever used it in the lounge I got the BEST feeling ever from it during and afterwards. An indescribable feeling that made me feel so different and happy. I hate the periods when I am ill for weeks on end and all that anxiety can come back if you don't keep yourself active in other ways, which the weights normally take care of.
Yeah that’s the worst, getting sick or injured sucks ass. I fucking hate it so much, I’m currently going through that right now. All I think about is getting back under a bar and pressing it, or curling some dumbbells and just getting a pump. It’s been a few weeks now since I’ve been able to do that. I’m gonna be super fucking PUMPED up though when I can step foot back into a gym though. That’s gonna be a natural high that will carry me for months.