posted Wed, 11/20/2013 - 13:34
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winter cycle layout(ideas/help)
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Im 40 years of age,5/6 165 pounds have had few cycles under my belt and mostly with bad advice from local guys . mostly done long ester cycles .this time around I want to run short esters so I may rebond faster.my main goal is to put on as much as i can in a short amount of time and not have as much down time to get back at it.this is the cycle I will be starting next any ideas or changes I should do please let me know thanks
Finally got all my gear .going to be running.
Test prop-150 eod
npp-100 eod
dbol-50 ed 4 weeks
8 weeks.also Cabergoline,clomid and norvdx.Main question is when is the best time to start the Cabergoline and at what dose?and should I run it with the pct end of cycle?
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What are your goals for this cycle bro?
Im at 165-170 like to see 190+.when I run long cycles I can gain up to 30 like to see the same if not better results from the shorter ester so hoping to see 30+ pounds 8 to 10 weeks my diet has been better then ever I have had poor diets in the past. Also hoping not to have as much down time 8 -10 weeks on 8-10 weeks off so I don't lose as much.last cycle was about 20 weeks got up to 189 but suffered took long time to recuperate been 8 months had blood done all looks good test levels little low but its expected.over all like to have same results if not better from 8 weeks then 20 weeks
Hi bro,
Let's do a bit of a level set here. First, comparing what can be achieved on a 20 week run with an 8 week run is not fair to yourself. It takes time to build lean mass and you are NOT going to build 2 lbs. / wk. of lean mass on an 8 week cycle. If you put on 20 lbs. in 8 weeks half of that will be water and it is going to come right off. And, the reason you are doing the 8 week short ester cycle is so you can jump back on sooner? I don't have any problem with the cycle layout except 4 weeks is it for dbol not 8 as mentioned. But when I read what you wrote above it kind of tells me that your experience is not that vast and perhaps you're plans for the whole year need a little rethinking and rework.
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I corrected the dbol its 4 weeks. at first was just stating what I was going to use it in a 8 week cycle sorry to confuse anyone.i know it will be hard to gain the same results but ill give it hell trying if I do not make or come close to my goal in 8 weeks least I will not have that much down time.i have enough gear for 12 weeks but really set on 8
8 weeks of d-bol is to long, 4 weeks max....do you get 19nor sides? if you dont know then personally i wouldnt run caber until they show, chances are good you will be able to run the cycle with out problems, you keep it in hand in the event problems occur. its been awhile since I been in here and I dont run AI's but if memory serves me right its .5 E3D. If you do run it on cycle then probably start it close to the beginning as the NPP will hit quick. as for PCT I dont remember protocol. other then that cycle looks good to me, alot of weight is gonna be from water, eat your ass off and you should have some good gains.
4 weeks dbol.i ran trend and deca last cycle and I did not do well on the rebound even with pct hmg still had some issues dont want to go through that again so was advised to run the caber beginning to end but I have read you dont have to use in till you see problems. As far as eating been taken in 3000 daily last couple weeks im up few pounds.like to start this cycle next couple days also have some of those bulk bombs from mp hoping to increase calories 4-5 I average about 30 pounds on cycle so like to hit 190-195 this time around. Its short cycle so keep my fingers crossed.thanks
are you saying you ran tren and deca and your natural test was hard to get back? if so thats understandable considering the compounds, NO-ONE that isnt TRT should be running those two compounds together in a cycle. I wont comment on running tren so early in the game, its already over at this point and im sure youve heard it.
Ran them both together with test for 10 weeks at the end 20 week cycle big mistake.tryd to harden up looked good but paid the price
First off. You should post your stats and goals or else u wont getthe right help u seek around here.
Is that a little better bro? Im new at posting for ideas I have posted this cycle on cycle logs but think it was to old to update cause I did not receive any responses so figure I would get a faster response by posting same cycle and question here.ill try work on this more and hope I get some help.thanks