posted Sun, 05/06/2012 - 06:48
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So Im throwing winny into the end of my cycle. now with test e you wait 2 weeks till pct so should with the test being a 10 week cycle should i take the winny weeks 7-10 or 9-12 or does it not matter?
also if i take it preworkout would i get any rush or at night would it keep me up?
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can i get this kind of responses for this too please
throw in adex .25 mg ed, and clean up the salt from your diet. this will help huge with bloat.. this was the advice given to me, and it worked wonders. .. I was going to suggest a prop taper, but since it is your first cycle, just stick with your test. Hope this helps.. good luck in the ebc bro!
tread-mPelon you are making the classic mistake every person walking in a body such as yours makes over and over and over again. Your problem is carbs not compounds. You want some artificial winnie? Drop your carbs to 100 ed and eat those up by 10 AM and watch your body for 2 weeks and come back and let me know if you need winnie. Whether or not you are in the EBC or walking the stage of Olympia this yr its your first cycle, test only, learn to eat for this life or learn nothing brother. RN and BB are looking out for you...listen
So don't have any carbs except in the morning?
tread-mThats it...big on protein, lift heavy less reps to hold and build muscle and watch the recomp. Could up cardio as well but I'm not going to try to burn too too much having seen pics. The carb work alone will peel you. This is a cutter comp and the guys that know their carb work will be at the front.
Stay around 5x5 for the compound lifts?
alright big man i'm going to give that a shot. how much you think is 100 of carbs?
Also i know this part is in the wrong section but due to my life and work schedule sometimes i eat dinner an hour or 2 before bed. what is something healthy i can eat. even if it is just a snack
Its ok to eat right before bed bro its not when you eat, its about what you eat, Check out this cut sample. This is what your diet should look like.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/whats-for-dinner/sim...
thank you
tread-mGD I wish I had this place when I was young!
You are young LMAOoooo
tread-mLol...thank you my brother. Just wish I had all you guys when I was 21 you know, wandering in and out of fast food joints just thinking it was all about piling in food by the wheel barrow. Yeah my best yrs are ahead of me is the way I see it, we are the silver backs brother and rule the land, nothing wrong with that! Lol
"my best yrs are ahead of me" I like that type of thinking bro, nice outlook.
ya before i was thinking i'm past my prime but after finding this site i feel that it's possible it's ahead of me as well
Things were a lot easier way back when. I remember eating pizza and burgers daily, shit if i go a week eating like that ill look like a beach whale.
tread-mYou and me both brother, in 2 or 3 days for me, bloat up over night! Hell in the day I could go into cici's and eat those MFers into banctruptcy and not gain fat! Lol
man who are you guys tellin? i'm going through that transition in this past year or so of my life!!!! i also feel that part of this is due to our new lives. i'm sure back when you did that you were out and about doing fun shit? now youre probably working 5-6 days a week...family, have other people in your household to worry about, etc.
Great point tread. I was under the impression that using your carb limit by 5/6pm would provide the same benefit. Obviously, your point (using up carbs by 10AM) would increase the efficiency of fat loss, but my query is at what point does muscle begin to deteriorate under the parameters aforementioned?
Make up your daily cal deficit with protein bro,adding more protein will force the metabolism to speed up even more to assimilate it the flip side of this is even more fat burning capability.
tread-mBoom Boom Boom Boom, Bang Bang Bang Bang!
Hi honey!!! ima home
lol.........lol
i'm going to check out that link, thank you. what do you guys think the best deli meat is for this? turkey? i'm probably going to stock up on a few pounds of beef jerkey
Yep turkey is fantastic for cutting bro,leanest white meat you can eat pound for pound, dont forget white fish also bro steamed is the best way,this is the ultimate cutting food,eat plenty of green broccoli also within a week os two you will be entering SHREDD CITY lmfaooooo....
Idk much about white fish but ill look into it. so for lunch for example...just eat it rolled up with no bread, hanything i could or should do to make it taste good
Forget salt at this stage bro a cutting diet is all about boring tastless food in its most natural form,its only for a short time just cope with it the results will speak for themselves, i have dieted so many times even cardboard tastes good thesedays lol..... NO SALT NO SUGARS that means ALL processed sauces are OUT OF HERE on a cutter.
Alright that's fine for me. lettuce is.probably real good right?
Thats fine bro,hit this thing head on for results ok good luck man..
Last 2wks of any cutter should ideally consist of nothing but white fish as your staple form of solid protein,all protein shakes should be made with bottled water the mineral and PH balance is far greater than tap water and you can count the grams better not worrieing about skim milk etc,if you are dead serious bin all fruit and juices too much frutose (fruit sugars)will also cloud definition.
How is salmon? N i don't use milk with my whey due to.the lactose messes up my stomach. i went without carbs pretty much all day and DAMN i was hungry as fuck! lol. bought myself a steak with some lettuce for dinner
Salmon is great any other time of year bro i personnaly would not do not use it when cutting,just my choice i prefer steamed white fish by the ton lol....
Alright ill hit up the grocery store this week after i get a few dollars. much appreciated
stats? age, cycle history, and what do you think winny will do for you? what is your body fat percentage? what MG are you planning on running per day?
24 first cycle vascularity/harden up 50mg.
Body fat percentage?
Idk but Im in the ebc. Bloated though from the test
Well and the fact i had going to bulk until i saw the.competition. never competed not even just with a friend on who is stronger or anything
winstrol wont do nothing for you your Body fat is WAY to high to see any results from it, its best ran at 10% fat and lower. If this is your first cycle then just stick with the test, and would run the test till week 12 unless you have some other reason for stopping early!
Check out my bench press thread
Just seen your pics bro,noid is spot on take that advice!! from your pic i would say you need to blast a carb diet and up your cardio 60% if you want to get anywhere near cut for the ebc,aas is not the magic pill here bro hard graft in the gym and some serious carb manipulation is in order,you will thank me for this in the long run.
HIIT training is a very effective way, combined with carb manipulaton mentioned above to shed some unwanted weight pretty quickly. Start 2 days per week then up to 3, on off HIIT days do some lower impact cardio like stairs or elevated treadmill.. work up to 40 minutes of cardio 5-7 days per week. And watch the results come!!
Roid is right on the money her bro, listen to his advice. Hate to see you come back her and be one of those calling winny bunk or usless. At you bodyfat it will only be a waste of time, money, and liver values.
he is in the ebc, take a look there