posted Wed, 07/06/2016 - 23:17
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Hi gyus!
I am 39 years old 9'11" tall, 245 pounds, healthy condition etc.. and after almost 20 years of pumping iron /started when I was 19/ I am strongly considering trying something new....good point would be to add the fact, that I have never /believe me or not/ get below 20 % of body fat although my diet and nutrition balance is very good for past 15 years.....my goal would be little to medium gains, get lean, fat loss....
I am considering this combo for the very first time just before any injectable roids:
Week 1-8 50 mg Methan50 ED
Weeks 1-8 25 mg Proviron ED
Weeks 1-8 3 Liv-52 taken twice / day
I will appreciate any thoughts and advice from experienced users...
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RustyhookerNO BRANDS IN FORUMS
My bad...thanks
I didn't even see those.
Example of my Monday /Lats, middle back , lower back/ workout:
Excercise - No of sets -Repetitions - Max weight
WIDE-GRIP PULL-UP -6- 9 8 8 8 8 8 - BW
BENT OVER TWO-ARM LONG BAR ROW - 5- 10 9 9 9 9 - 205 + bar
BENT OVER BARBELL ROW - 4- 10 10 10 10 - 130 + bar
V-BAR PULLDOWN -5- 10 10 8 8 8 - 185
UNDERHAND CABLE PULLDOWNS -6- 10 10 10 10 8 8 + 8 - 90
SEATED BACK EXTENSION -5- 12 12 10 10 10 - 35
HYPEREXTENSIONS (BACK EXTENSIONS) -5- 12 12 12 12 12 - 280
Nutrients:
Cal. 1487
Protein 130g
Carbs 125g
Fiber 21g
Sugars 56g
Fat 30g
Chol. 335mg
Sod. 566mg
Pot. 1957mg
A 264
C 424
Calc. 39
Iron 90
Are you aerobic 3 times out of the week? And the calories, macros and elements posted are on a daily basis?
Harris Benedict Equation results:
2200 calories to maintain
3400 calories with activity
Have you had your body fat % checked and what types of food do you eat?
Here's what I eat..I have recently modified my diet as following:
Breakfast: 1 full cup of oat meal with sliced banana + cup of frozen berries and a scoop of protein /30g/
Snack: raw mango + activia fiber
Lunch: 2 cups of raw brocolli, 1 whole egg + 5 egg whites
Snack: apple + 2 rice cakes
Dinner: 1 1/2 of chicken breast + 200 g of letuce + carrots
Snack: Protein shake /30g/ after workout
Plus - 15 g of Creatine Monohydrate, B 12, Centrum multivitamin, 3 capsules of Omega - 3, drink something between 3 - 4 litres of water everyday
You should be eating 270g of protein, about 150-200g of carbs, or keep the carbs at 125g, and 120g of fats. You need early a.m. fasted cardio for aerobic activity. You can alternate heavy and light weight workouts, but I would keep the workouts around 30 minutes, maybe mixing in compound lifts mainly with a minimal amount of isolated lifting. Right now, 2700 calories/d with that macros as above noted, is deficit enough, and calculated appropriately to help you fuel your workouts and lose the body fat and weight needed prior to cycling AAS.
Thanks mate...I will post some pics later today...can't do it right now...seems like I do a lot the wrong way...I am short on fat and calories and my workouts take far too long / 1 1/2 - 2 hours approx. /...
Will just have to do more research prior anything related to AAS's....I will definitively take your advice and add morning fasted cardio activity....
Well you came to the best place in the world!! There are a lot of intelligent no bullsh*t guys and gals here. We tell it to ya the way it needs to be and you aren't so totally far off that nothing will work.
I accepted your FR, so if you wanna hit me up bro feel free to do so anytime.
Keep us posted and know that we care bro!!
Good stuff ....thanks
Yeah I want to do it once and I want to do it right and that is my only goal....
I'd rather look dumb and ask 10 times than just f*** myself up and face some lifetime health consequences...
I did wait 19 years to get even to this stage so I am not rushing anything and as you've mentioned earlier on today if it'll happen in March and it'll take extra 5 - 6 months just to get ready for it then be it....
Appreciate any constructive criticism and will be grateful for any useful advice !
YOU GOT THIS, BRO!! You may end up seeing results much quicker, March is a good time to get ready and dont let the holidays mess you up.
In gym 5 x week....yeah the calories and macros are based on daily intake...didn't have my body fat checked just yet
Post up an unidentifiable pic...I want to see abdominal girth. Thanks.
Before we get started there are some things we need a to clarify. You have never cycled AAS, correct?
We need to see a brief synopsis of what you eat on a daily basis and what your exercise regimen looks like. I am not cosigning a cycle, but I want to obtain a history from you.
Also, do this. Query Harris Benedict Equation and calculate your BMR with and without activity.
Also, calculate your lean body mass (LBM).
My BMR
BMR: 2221
Daily Calorie Needs: 3776 calories.... /mmmmm is this correct?/
Calculation based on the revised Harris-Benedict equation by Roza and Shizgal from 1984.
PAL (Physical activity level): 1.7
Gender: male
I would say my LBM would be somewhere between 185 - 195 pounds
Yep the numbers are correct. But, you will face some moderate challenges secondary to 20% BF, imo.
You could start out with a plan for a cycle and PCT, while holding off for enough time to get your cardio and diet dialed in better. By then, say fall or March, you would be closer to tolerating a single ester compound cycle. PCT start 14-18 days after last pin. And, you need pre-cycle bloodwork prior to injecting.
I use 1.55 for activity level...and factor in rest for recovery. Yea..about 180 for LBM at 10% BF...I am guessing though.
The calculator.net is factoring in probably 7-8%...not really sure, but you get an idea where your weight needs to be for optimal leaness.
I am getting a LBM of 161.5 (Boer) using calculator.net.
Hmm...I was using LBM calculator on bodybuilding.com
Never did correct
Okay, great. Thanks.
@MedDx Thanks for having me & thank you all for responding...
Of course I am at the stage when I am spending days & days watching, reading and getting all the inside info on how, when, if, how much etc.. Thought the orals might be a silly choice but I wanted to hear some voices here first...saying that would you then recommend me to run following:
1 - 8 Testosterone enanthate 500mg
2 - 8 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
8 - 12 Clomid 100, 100, 50, 50 ED
8 - 12 Nolva 20, 20, 10, 10 ED
I just want to take it very easy and make sure stuff is under control....
My diet, pics, workout plan following...
Yeah missed that typo sorry about that lol 5'11" is correct....
GnarkillDam 9'11" just one inch short of a basketball hoop
So your body fat is greater than 20%? Post your daily calorie and macros intake. Post up a pic that's unidentifiable. Post your exercise regimen.
The yellow stickies are important tools to use, while here at Eroids. Focus on the stickies that talk about beginner cycles.
Lately, in the past, I have read info on here about using test e/c (dose appropriate) for first cycles and guys dropping body fat. That's all well and good, but if you don't have an appropriate diet and workout regimen your goals will be unattainable.
Welcome to Eroids....glad you're here!!
Yikes, terrible idea man. Maybe check out a couple other sections of the forum before proposing a cycle. Kinda small for being 9'11" lol. You got some reading to do ;)
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise
https://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles
Thanks for those links.....I feel now I have been tru all those articles but still feeling the need to get more knowledge..my current goal would be to start small and watch my body reaction and get small steady gains with loosing some fat too...
Nice links...they will give OP a quicker jump to where I was pointing him...
I got your back homie :-P
Much appreciated...and I got yours...