posted Mon, 03/14/2016 - 09:55
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What could be causing my panic attacks?
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I began my cycle in January with a 5wk dbol kicker and sust 270 which I will be on till mid April. Dbol was dosed at 30mg ed and the sust270 mwf. I haven't done bloodwork yet, I live in ny so I have to go to my dr, appt next week. I just started experiencing anxiety/panic attacks. What could this be from? High estro? I have Aromasin on hand if so... I appreciate any guidance you can give me
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I have no tolerance when steroid sides escalate to the point I'm having panic attacks. I got a script for an ample supply of lorazepam from my doc. End of panic attacks. This is one of those steroid sides with 50 possible reasons. BP as noted below can definitely cause this. But, I get panic attacks now and then with perfectly normal BP on cycle. When I checked my blood work, it was all reasonable, so as long as I'm not damaging my organs somehow, getting at the root cause of panic attacks is simply too stressful and boring for me to tackle esp when prepping for a show. I just use benzos.
Some folk on the board here will not like my advice to you. We have no problem taking all manner of AAS compounds which are generally harsh drugs but some folk want to treat the sides with homeopathic remedies. I find that strange.
I'll ask my doc about the lorazepam or ACE inhibitor. I took a baby aspirin, started on 12.5mg aromasin, and 3g of melatonin last night. I slept like a baby and zero anxiety. I'm still gonna do some bloods when I go to the doc and try to figure out what the problem is. Thank you brother
Running tren makes my anxiety go through the damn roof and I already take med for it ..just up the dose a Lil and all good for me may be different for u just my personal experience
Are you telling him to up the dose of tren to help with anxiety?
Thats how i read it....smh
Well imma ask a question no one else asked have you had anxiety problems in the past? Mine is 5 times as worse on cycles moat of the time
Are you taking any supplements at all ,that you have never used before ? Caffeine supplements pack a punch on anxiety ,also blood pressure check would be good idea,
Preworkout drink which I've also used before, BP is high 150/79
Good solid stimulus free pre workout is myogenix hyper shock rage. All the pump stuff you'd get from a stimulant loaded preworkout without the stims...
I haven't had any anxiety problems in the past. I think I'll pick up some of that hyper shock so I can completely stay away from stims, thank you
TronDbol spiked my blood pressure to the point my anxiety was so bad I had to leave the gym. High BP is more than likely the culprit here. I'm on trt and over the past year started noticing unusual anxiety..I told myself to stop being a pussy..it got worse..start feeling flush sometimes and things that were slightly stressfull would make me almost feel panic and my heart would race..started getting frequent headaches or just head pressure. When I checked my BP it was almost exactly where yours is. I'd bet money that's the culprit..but don't worry it's completely controllable. I ordered BP meds on here to see if they would help..went with a fast acting ACE inhibitor and within a few days felt like myself again..BIG relief.I would drop the Dbol and see what happens..If that doesn't lower it I'd cut cycle short..hit pct and see if that does it..if that doesn't work go to the doctor. You probably are only experiencing this because of the aas. I eventually went to the doctor and he put me in the same meds I ordered and I'm fine now. You'll be alright either way.
Thank you, you just made me feel much better. I ran the dbol as a kicker, have just been on sust now. Do u think I should start the aromasin I have on hand? How long did you have to stay on that bp med?
TronWell, I'm a stupid fuck that prescribed myself trt 5 years ago and now I'm in BP meds as well as aromasin forever. For a while there I only needs the meds on cycle though. Sus has a mixture of short, med, and long esters..I usually start aromasin at the end of the second week in Sus myself.
then if you have used before it should be ok,,i use atenolol for blood pressure, a doc will prescribe something right away if you go in,he would give you a better recommendation on what drug to use ,and when my BP spikes up i do feel anxious ,
Ok, thank u
Check your blood pressure. High estro can cause that.
It is high 150/79
Take baby aspirin, stay hydrated, and avoid any and all stimulants for a while. Your call on whether to begin aromasin or not. I would if I'm experiencing other high estro symptoms beside HBP and anxiety like water bloat and itch nips.
Edit: so, no AI for first 4 weeks on dbol?
Keep in mind the older we get into our 30s, the more susceptible we are to changes in our body chemistry. What didn't screw with you 3 or 4 cycles ago can crop up in later cycles with the exact same compounds and dosages.
Ok, will pick up the baby asprin. Haven't had any water bloat or itchy nips but maybe I should start the aromasin at a low dose
Good idea. There's probably still estro from dbol aromatization from your last week. I'd start at 12.5mg for one day and then 6.25mg ed until your bloods come back and you feel better. It's a good idea to use an AI with dbol because the estrogen it aromatizes into is more potent than the estro from test. Aromasin is great for that because it doesn't allow for estro to rebound like arimidex does.
Ok just got my blood results from the doc. Test is at 1600 and estrogen at 80. So my estro is high, do you think 6.25 aromasin ed or eod? I'm afraid of knockin my estro too low and sacraficing gains. What do you think?
ED. Be mindful of low and high estro symptoms so you can back off or increase your dose according to blood work and how you feel. Blood will tell you for sure.
Ok, thanks again
Thank you for all your help
You're welcome brother! Glad I could help.
Rustyhooker+2 good info
Hi Gravytrain, is this your first cycle?
No, I've done 5 cycles in the past and never had this problem.
what was your previous cycles ? and what is different in this cycle ? but i think high estro cause this as the guys different . do blood test then decide . and more small request bro , delete the part say where are you living .
Nothing different, sust was always my favorite, have ysed it in 3 other cycles
Nothing different, sust was always my favorite, have used it in 3 other cycles