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+ 1 Week 6 bloodwork, please advise

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Hi all
Bloods just came back

Cycle - 2 X 250g test e per week
Bloods taken about 40 hours after 11th shot, a little longer than I'd planned, but I fucked up the timing.

Took a pretty basic test by the looks of it so I eagerly await a verbal thrashing about lack of research from everybody, lol, what's done is done.
So my gear is legit, though I'd like your opinion on how well you think it's performed, it is pharma grade. Supposedly.
Looks like I'll be starting AI and would appreciate any input here, was thinking I'd start on .125g adex ed for a week then drop to .125g eod. Or is this too aggressive considering my only side seems to be water retention at the mo.

Dont hold back, I need to learn

Testosterone
74.9 nmol/L

17-beta oestradiol
186.6 pmol/L

Sorry, tried but failed to post an actual pic

irongame427's picture

To put your test levels into terms most of us understand 74.9nmol/L equals roughly 2166ng/dl, From what were used to seeing thats a bit low, over the years somewhere around 3000-4000ng/dl has become what we normally see on 500mgs of test, but more and more are coming in like yours. So regardless your test levels are overe 2000, most likely 4 times what they are naturally. Thats pretty much all you need to grow. Just eat big and lift smart and the results will come.

Righthook's picture

Ah good man, thanks for the response, any thoughts on the adex? I'm definitely going to start but not sure of the dose or how I'll respond.

irongame427's picture

pg/ml is the measurment im firmiliar with and 186 pmol/l equals about 51pg/ml. If I was on cycle and my goal was pure muscle gain (bulk) I wouldnt touch that adex. Id maybe add some proviron. Estrogen is very anabolic, many tend to forget that and try to keep it low like in the 20s etc, thats fine for a cut, thats what I would do when im cutting and trying to lean out and stay nice and dry. But when im bulking and pushing heavy weights that extra water from the e2 is going to cushion your joints, so you can push more in the gym, leading to more muscle, its going to make you stronger so you can lift heavier equaling more muscle, and like I said, estrogen in its form is anabolic, without it you wont grow, with to little youll hinder your gains. If youre suffering from any problems due to higher e2 like libido problems, high bp etc, then id lower it, but if not then I wouldnt mess with it. If you insist, add .25mgs twice a week, that will be enough to bring you down in range. But personally if im bulking i let mine get up there, yours is 50 i let mine get up to 70 at times when bulking. But when cutting and trying to keep a dry lean physique i go heavier on the ais, But thats the only times.

Righthook's picture

Glad you chimed in dude, nobody really talks about high estrogen being a good thing. I am concerned that im carrying water right now but I'm really in this for the strength gains so I can deal with it for now. Maybe I'll hold off until I experience any other sides, im not as lean as you so perhaps I shouldn't let it get as high as you do. Again, thanks man

MedDx's picture

I still like your dosage idea.... Smile You can add 20-30 minutes of light to moderate cardio 1-2 days per week and monitor CHO intake by choosing foods with a low glycemic index to help offset any imbalances between estrogen and body fat.

Righthook's picture

Holy shit, just PM'd you about this, you an effing mind reader or what?

MedDx's picture

No I just stick to the tarot cards...lol... Smile

Righthook's picture

And can't find my original pre-cycle bloodworm right now, dammit