+ 2 Trying to set up a fall/winter cycle...wanna get this right
This may be a long post, so thanks in advance to anyone who reads/helps.
29 years old
5'6"
185 lbs, unsure of bf%
Couple cycles done incorrectly, 1 cycle earlier this year that was done decently that consisted of
1-14 Test E 500mg
1-12 EQ 500mg
3-12 HCG 500iu
PCT - Nolva 40/40/20/20
At the current moment, I'm running the Palumbo keto diet to cut some fat off. I got up over 200lbs on that Test E/EQ cycle earlier this year, but I ate like shit and looked like shit. I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the info, so I'm afraid I fucked up on dosing length of the HCG...no Clomid or AI, etc. After doing research, I know that I didn't run the EQ long enough. So, I wanna make sure that this cycle goes better/cleaner. I'm open to other compounds, but EQ seemed to treat me well...only thing is, I'm not excited about running a super long cycle that would optimize the EQ. Also interested in kickstarting with prop this time around...or maybe frontloading. No orals, they scare the shit out of me.
Training: I train 4x a week with a strong bias on strength/powerlifting. My partners and I incorporate ideas from Westside and Texas Method. 5's or less on squat/bench/deadlift/OHP and plenty of accessory work. I'm not looking for tuis cycle to turn me into Mr. Olympia, so the idea of a wet bulk doesn't bother me. As far as diet goes, once I get into a good routine, I don't have much trouble with willpower/cheating.
Should I just keep it simple and get a good solid 12 week Test P/Test E cycle under my belt? Maybe something like this:
1-12 Test E 750-1000mg
1-4 Test P 100mg EOD
1-12 Adex .25 EOD
HCG?
PCT : Nolva @ 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50
The more I read and research, it seems the more confused I get. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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AnonMy only thing is that if you are really putting an emphasis on power lifting/strength work then working "accessories" detracts from that. Otherwise the cycle you have listed with the test e/prop looks pretty decent.
cdaddy7Consider this cycle plan, Simple but yet effective:
Week 1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Week 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk split dose
Week 13-14 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg EOD starting Week 2
3 days after last Test Prop shot begin PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
zewiX2...
Only thing is if you BF is high--be honest to yourself. Do only 500mg of test E...
X2 more is not always the answer.
Doing some Googling, I'm gonna say I'm at 20%, maybe a bit higher. But I'm putting in work to bring that down. I guess I have plenty of time for higher doses, may just go with the 500mg split wkly. Keep the Prop at 100 EOD?
Legit HCG seems a bit hard to track down, in the opinion of you guys, is it worth the effort?
cdaddy7Leave the HCG out of the mix IMO. Drop the test to 500mg. And from this point on u have many moths to dial in ur diet and drop about 6% of that bf and you will b g2g my man. And +1 for the right attitude, researching and asking vets for help
zewiX2 and a +1 to him too--nice to see a good attitude.
cdaddy7U think that's the real Henry Rollins from the Henry Rollins Band? He played on Sons of Anarchy two seasons ago too.... LOL
zewiwould be cool.
thanks for points guys! No, I'm not Henry, but I'm a big fan! If you haven't read "The Iron" I highly recommend it.
http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/strength-articles/iron-henry-rollins
Sent FR's to all you guys that have helped. I won't blow your PM box up, just wanna have a way to reach those who've helped, in the future
cdaddy7Fr accepted bro
Right on man, thanks again. So far, since starting this diet I'm down ~10lbs., in around 20 days. Some water weight I'm sure, but I'm heading the right way. I've cut out the sodas and alcohol...maybe have a glass of wine occasionally. I've cut my caffeine intake considerably, no more DMAA either. No cardio yet, but when the weight loss slows, I'll start. Plus I've got $100 bet with the ol lady on a race to visible abs. A lot of motivation going on and it feels great.
cdaddy7Keep it up bro. We will b here to help u all the way
cdaddy7I would only use 500 myself but since he offered 750 r 1g, I opted with lesser dose.
I like it, keep it simple do it te right way this time around. Sounds like you got some work to do on your diet. Make sure you get it on point before you run your cycle.
Thanks for the reply! Anything you would add or change? Err on the 750 or 1000 side as far as dosage? HCG for the entire cycle, first 10 weeks, or the 8 weeks in the middle?
Diet is definitely something that I need work on, but I'm making progress. This Palumbo diet (found it mentioned on here) is working and each day my willpower gets stronger. I will for sure do research for my diet on cycle.
Looks good to me you got your AI and pct is on point. I would run hcg somewhere around the middle so 8 weeks in should be good. 750mg should be enough test my friend.
I think it's easy to get cycle envy so to speak and desire to get too complicated too quick...I maybe fell into that. Thanks again for your help, I just needed to be get grounded a bit, ha
Yes it can be, plenty of time to grow bro. I'm sure you will have many cycle to run, got to crawl before we walk.
zewiwisdom. X2