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+ 2 Trying to set up a fall/winter cycle...wanna get this right

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This may be a long post, so thanks in advance to anyone who reads/helps.

29 years old
5'6"
185 lbs, unsure of bf%
Couple cycles done incorrectly, 1 cycle earlier this year that was done decently that consisted of
1-14 Test E 500mg
1-12 EQ 500mg
3-12 HCG 500iu
PCT - Nolva 40/40/20/20

At the current moment, I'm running the Palumbo keto diet to cut some fat off. I got up over 200lbs on that Test E/EQ cycle earlier this year, but I ate like shit and looked like shit. I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the info, so I'm afraid I fucked up on dosing length of the HCG...no Clomid or AI, etc. After doing research, I know that I didn't run the EQ long enough. So, I wanna make sure that this cycle goes better/cleaner. I'm open to other compounds, but EQ seemed to treat me well...only thing is, I'm not excited about running a super long cycle that would optimize the EQ. Also interested in kickstarting with prop this time around...or maybe frontloading. No orals, they scare the shit out of me.

Training: I train 4x a week with a strong bias on strength/powerlifting. My partners and I incorporate ideas from Westside and Texas Method. 5's or less on squat/bench/deadlift/OHP and plenty of accessory work. I'm not looking for tuis cycle to turn me into Mr. Olympia, so the idea of a wet bulk doesn't bother me. As far as diet goes, once I get into a good routine, I don't have much trouble with willpower/cheating.

Should I just keep it simple and get a good solid 12 week Test P/Test E cycle under my belt? Maybe something like this:

1-12 Test E 750-1000mg
1-4 Test P 100mg EOD
1-12 Adex .25 EOD
HCG?
PCT : Nolva @ 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50

The more I read and research, it seems the more confused I get. Any help is greatly appreciated.

logan's picture

X2 more is not always the answer.

HenryRollins's picture

Doing some Googling, I'm gonna say I'm at 20%, maybe a bit higher. But I'm putting in work to bring that down. I guess I have plenty of time for higher doses, may just go with the 500mg split wkly. Keep the Prop at 100 EOD?

Legit HCG seems a bit hard to track down, in the opinion of you guys, is it worth the effort?

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thanks for points guys! No, I'm not Henry, but I'm a big fan! If you haven't read "The Iron" I highly recommend it.

http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/strength-articles/iron-henry-rollins

Sent FR's to all you guys that have helped. I won't blow your PM box up, just wanna have a way to reach those who've helped, in the future

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Right on man, thanks again. So far, since starting this diet I'm down ~10lbs., in around 20 days. Some water weight I'm sure, but I'm heading the right way. I've cut out the sodas and alcohol...maybe have a glass of wine occasionally. I've cut my caffeine intake considerably, no more DMAA either. No cardio yet, but when the weight loss slows, I'll start. Plus I've got $100 bet with the ol lady on a race to visible abs. A lot of motivation going on and it feels great.

Trenabolic's picture

I like it, keep it simple do it te right way this time around. Sounds like you got some work to do on your diet. Make sure you get it on point before you run your cycle.

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HenryRollins's picture

Thanks for the reply! Anything you would add or change? Err on the 750 or 1000 side as far as dosage? HCG for the entire cycle, first 10 weeks, or the 8 weeks in the middle?

Diet is definitely something that I need work on, but I'm making progress. This Palumbo diet (found it mentioned on here) is working and each day my willpower gets stronger. I will for sure do research for my diet on cycle.

Trenabolic's picture

Looks good to me you got your AI and pct is on point. I would run hcg somewhere around the middle so 8 weeks in should be good. 750mg should be enough test my friend.

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HenryRollins's picture

I think it's easy to get cycle envy so to speak and desire to get too complicated too quick...I maybe fell into that. Thanks again for your help, I just needed to be get grounded a bit, ha

Trenabolic's picture

Yes it can be, plenty of time to grow bro. I'm sure you will have many cycle to run, got to crawl before we walk.

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