posted Tue, 06/17/2014 - 07:16
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Trying new things. Help me out
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I wouldn't say I am a beginner, but am not am expert but I am thinking about running a stack I put together. In the past I ran test cyp by CENSORED at 600mg a week and deca by CENSORED at 400mg a week. The cycle I am thinking about taking is
Test cyp 800mg a week
Deca 600mg week
Eq at 600mg a week
25 eod Aromasin
Can I get some advice or feed back?
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I ran an almost identical cycle last fall. Test/EQ/deca and let me tell you I was not impressed. As rusty said, it's a wet bulker. I ended up looking pretty soft. Big, but soft. Not my thing.
Might wanna keep an eye on your RBC/hemocrit/hemoglobin on EQ (should you choose to run it). It is notorious for jacking your levels up. Combat this by donating blood every 8 weeks.
The more I think about it, the eq will not be a good idea to run.. Like they said, too much gear for someone new to this
I'm Not a deca fan. If your plan is bulking I would rather just stick with test alone and eat, but if you are dead set on multiple compounds I would go with the eq and test. Likely you'll have Less sides , less estro issues, leaner gains, less water .. I don't know that's just me..
RustyhookerIf second cycle went well, then simply repeat. If food/gym are on point you'll grow. Why wet bulker?
X2... But just test
Far too much gear for a 3rd cycle.
We'll in glad to see your not 170lbs with this proposal like 90% of the ones I've seen this week lol, so that's refreshing. In your pic you look to be in decent condition, any idea of your body fat? And I'm guessing the goal of this cycle is bulker. Personally my theory is use the least amount of gear possible to reach your goal. Everyone thinks this is like like riding motorcycles, start with a 250 get comfortable then move up to a 600, and then a 1000 and that should not be the case with steroids. These are very powerful drugs were messing with and A lot can go wrong. I believe you should completely max yourself out on the basics before you ever decide to add in another drug. So using just test until you can't gain another pound of muscle from it, then add something else if your still not as big as you'd like and IMO 90% of guys will be able to reach there goals with just the test. With that said if you are completely set on using another drug pick one or he other, and I would suggest the eq as it's not as harsh on the hpta that deca is. But obviously it has it's own set of different side effects that you must keep in check but we can talk about that when we finalize what your gonna run. So that's my suggestion as there is no possible way you can't gain on just test or eq. These are powerful drugs were missing with here and more is not always better. So how do you feel about a test eq run? And just to throw it out there now you would be much better off cutting the aromasin dose in half and running it everyday, assuming you need that much aromasin to keep estro in check. All of our body's are different, but personally my blood work shower 6.25mgs ed had me barely out of normal range which is fine by me. And how long have you been off cycle for? Have you has bloodwork done that looked good and showed you recovered? Would like to know how many cycles you've ran so far also.
Thank you. No, I am a little over 200 and I'll take your advice! Tamper it down a little. I like the idea of the test and dbol becuz I have ran dbol before and I loved what I got from it. This cycle is a bulker and and I sitting at around 12% body fat. I have done blood work and my levels were back to normal. This would be my 3rd cycle and I have been off for a little over two months. I want a little more time before my next cycle. I liked the idea of eq becuz of the low effects on estrogen.
Defintely need to take more time before you next cycle. You know the general rule of thumb is time on+pct=time off so keep that in mind. So ya then if you liked you test dbol cycle in the last run that shif again bro. There is no reason in the world why you can't gain bigggg from that cycle. And it will cost you less money, IMO you'll feel better putting less drugs in your body, you don't have I stay on for 16-24 weeks like you would on eq which means earlier recovery and on eq you have to give blood, it will raise your rbcs to dangerous levels. In my opinion 500-750mggs of test and 30-50mgs of dbol for the first 6 weeks is much more mild and easier to recover from then a long test eq run and your total mg per week of gear will also be lower. And with that money you save not having to buy 20 weeks worth of eq and only 12 or so weeks of test instead of 20 you could use the extra money to get some human grade gear.
Thank you! Defiantly will take your advice!
Glad to hear that bro. Test with a little dbol plus a good diet is a perfect recipe to grow like a bad weed. Just make sure you take the proper time off between your last cycle to let you body recover, and another benefit is your receptors will be fresh and respond better to the new cycle. And I'm sure you know this but make sure you have everything on hand before you start including pct. Never know when something will go wrong and you need to get off cycle asap.
I have a good partner helping me with everything of that nature. Thank you for all your help. I'll try and come back n tell you when I start n how it goes!
Sounds good bro.
Just saw your post below, absolutely no reason to be running a cycle like that for your 3rd run. Maybe your 20th lol but as of now stick to the basics. Your want 20lbs, that's diet not drugs. I think you could do fine with just test and a dbol or prop kicker. it's cheaper , less sides, you ll feel great on it, and it'll give you what you want assuming your sdiets on point.
Finish filling out your stats and goals and we will tell you why this cycle is a bad idea.
You have MOD eyeball on you already............... why so much juice?
You may want to read the rules before you touch the keyboard again.
Edit out the lab names. Can't post that in open forum.
How many cycles have you run? What is your goal here with this "proposed" cycle? I want to hear your reasoning behind you proposing 2000 mg of gear a week..... You need to post up a length for this cycle and your PCT as well.
Ok let's try this again. I have an average of 12% body fat and this will end up being my 3rd cycle. I have taken test and deca before and I want to do it again and I enjoyed the results from it. I was looking into taking eq as well and hopefully Gettinf a little bit better results. I'm looking to get up to 20 pounds of good muscle. So this is what I was trying to get advice on and maybe y'all call help me.
Test at 600-800 mg
Deca at 200-400mg
Eq at 600mg
Aromasin 25mg eod
This will be 12 weeks
Eq will be ran around 16 weeks or more. What could I do with the deca. I want it for the joint support... with the pct being Clomid 100-100-50-50
Nolva 40-40-20-10 Or anything y'all can help out on. This is an idea I'm looking into and asking for help on.
There are three Expert levels members who just weighed in up top. The consensuses is that this is WAY too much for a third cycle. 1000 mg of gear is a "heavy" cycle and you're proposing 2000 mg of gear. There is no reason you cant accomplish your goals with a simple test cycle. There is no reason to be running more than two at the very most and. Lower your doses, and propose a serious weight gaining diet (there's lots here: see Vike).