posted Thu, 11/14/2013 - 15:57
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Tren & tired
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I am currently on my 6th week of Test E 900mg/wk and Tren E 600mg/wk. The last two weeks I feel like my energy has been zapped! This is the highest dose of Tren I have ever taken in a cycle. Anyone had this issue? I was thinking of tapering back the Tren to 300mg/wk to see if it helps.
Other than this, I am getting no other sides. Taking .5mg A-dex EOD.
Age 36
6'
218lbs
5.5%bf
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AnonDrop the a.i. and see how you feel bro
check your estro...check your prolaction. one of them being high can suck, both of them being high REALLY sux!
Well your runnin a high dose cycle which can cause lethargy...and also if your stats are correct you are going to be tired as shit at 5.5% bf
Yeah, I get my bf checked every two weeks.....and since I'm depleting for 7 more weeks, its only going to get lower.....may be time for PCT and cut my losses.....
Marcel1229Dude Tren is not good for cardio heads up
Yeah, I was warned......I do construction for a living, so its almost like a light 6hr cardio session a day.....maybe tren isn't for me....
Check your estro. You only need at TRT dose of Test on that Tren cycle - this is specific to Tren - and the high Test has the potential for a very unusual amount of aromatization that your AI will not cover. Again, this is a Tren issue - if you were running Deca it would be the standard 2:1 Test/Deca ratio - Tren is a different ball game. BTW, I just found this out from a senior member on this website cuz I felt like crap too . . .
So if I understand you correct...I would run test at say 250/wk, then would I also want to lower the tren, or is the 600/wk still a good amount? I have also read of tren that once you hit a certain dose(hypathetically let's say 400/wk) increasing dosage offers no benefit.....thanks for your info
Yes, Test at 250/wk - Tren - I would pull it back to 400 wk or 500 wk - not lower than 400. I wouldn't advise scaling back the Tren too much - then you're not gonna get the effects. And, yes, you are spot, on - even dinosaurs like me can't just keep upping the dose all the time - you get to a point where increased dose yields little in terms of increased effect. Tren is no exception to that phenomena.
Awesome bro! That's gonna put some extra cash in my pocket too. As for my A-dex goes, after I taper my test. I will probably just keep it on hand. I am not sure if I will need it at 250/wk....I have read that even though tren doesn't convert, it still can cause gyno....but I couldn't understand the explanation as to why. If you have any suggestions on that, I am all ears.....
Man, this shit is so scientific....
Tren is a 19-nor class steroid like Deca and causes prolactin based gyno. Just as you use an AI to manage estrogen issues you need to take a dopanine agonist / prolactin inhibitor like cabergoline (brand Dostinex) with Tren. The usual dose is 0.25 mg Caber e3d. This is VERY IMPORTANT. Final thought - next lab - check your thryroid hormone T3. Tren can suppress T3 and you will be so tired it will be hard to get out of bed if this happens. You can take T3 if your labs indicate a problem but please don't play with T3 unless you're blood work CLEARLY shows an issue.
Solid info. Level up!
Maybe you should rethink the test:tren ratio.
I will for sure research that....thanks....