Tren cycle advice please
I did a cycle much earlier in the year w Tren, Test C, Dbol.... It was a very successful cycle, I gained the most strength, definition, vascularity.. I ever have in such a short period, it was as advertised...I got leaner when I dropped the dbol but kept the Tren for 3 more weeks and I felt great during this time. I tend to think the tren made the most difference because everybody in tren discussions mention how by week 2 you feel amped.. it definitely hit me on day 14.. so now I'm getting ready for a new tren cycle in the next few months and Im looking for advice if I should just stay w Tren and Test and drop the Dbol, or it the stacking of those two (tren/dbol) important, I'm just not sure if I got most of the impact from the mix or Tren mostly. looking for peoples experiences and advice.. thanks.
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sorry rusty, I don't know what that means... you guys are so experienced, why do you think rookies ask questions? cause we want to learn from you... or... think of it the other way.. why don't we? because you guys flame newbies all the time in these forums because we're not as awesome and as experienced as you are.. come on man.. if you're not going to come on here and contribute w the intention of helping somebody then don't bother... I'm honestly looking for advice and I'm new to this world. if you don't want to help then don't, but don't ruin my post w your negativity.
RustyhookerIm seeing catfish troll here.
Go to your endo. Get fixed proper.
how long w no steroids at all? well I started on this path due to low T.... so i've been hesitant to go to nothing cause I get all of the normal low T symptoms and its difficult to function professionally... but its probably been 7-8 months since I was using just normal TRT levels.. I did have a 5 week period after summer vaca where I had HCG, clomid lots of supplements and focused on lots of protein... my Test during that time was like 150/wk... so, I guess i've been pretty loaded up since end of feb/mar w some valleys.. maybe my "breaks" weren't enough... I asked a previous question I didn't see a response to: how do I get regular labs without alarming my Primary care physician?
Where you prescribed TRT by a medical professional? If yes, I'd definitely recommend making an appointment with them and getting some quality advice going forward on TRT. You absolutely need to stop with the high levels of test you're on.
In my honest opinion (and I can't really help you much because I'm 25, don't really have a right to be speaking about TRT as per no experience) I'd get bloodwork done as soon as I could to see where your body is at. You have probably wrecked our lipid profile, kidneys have definitely been stressed, etc.
For outside of coverage bloodwork you can use privatemdlabs.com (if you're not in a blacklisted state)
Also, forget about the Tren (or any cycle) until you get your bloodwork dialed in and youre healthy.
ok, so I should cruise for a while?...how long and at what dose? i've been on high dose test the last 8 weeks, should I do PCT and then start a new stack? by the way,this is why newbies post so that we can get guidance from the GURUs who have been doing this w experience and reading a lot more for a lot longer. I really appreciate the advice... want to do it right and there is a lot of conflicting info out there. Thanks!
First thing you want to do right now is get bloodwork done and see what condition you're in internally, liver values, kidney values, cholesterol, etc.
How long have you been running your shit this way? When is the last time you were off cycle properly, as in no steroids whatsoever?
You may not even be able to recover your natural levels, given that you're 42 and have been what is tantamount to abusing AAS for quite some time (depending on your answer to the above).
oh ok, thanks, I guess I have been blast/ cruise then (without knowing it), dropped test to 150/wk during cycle and let tren/dbol do the work... then during PCT kept it low and added clomid, HCG, then back to high dosage. haven't learned much about anadrol, what should I know?
Rustyhooker750 off cycle is not a cruise. That's a full tilt year long run. I bet your cholesterol is horrible
I'm having a real hard time following this...
You've basically been blasting the entire year if I'm reading correctly.
750mg during the off cycle...
150mg on cycle, but with Tren and dbol.
150mg only test during PCT (This is not PCT)
750mg off cycle...
Is that correct?
Stacking tren and dbol is a synergistic combination because they are from different classes of compounds. Class 1 and class 2. Meaning 1+1=3 in sorts. I prefer anadrol over dbol. Test, tren, and oral of choice is always a solid stack. I wouldn't change anything. Just rub it again or switch the dbol for anadrol if you'd like. I stay much much drier on drol. This stack is very versatile and can be used when bulking or cutting.
I take it you missed the part where the guy is running full tilt high dose ALL YEAR........... SMFH>
I could have strolled in here saying what you said but NO!... i read the OPs post in detail and discovered a major fkn glitch, so instead of talking roids i want to know was my finding justlfied.
Fkn hell man... take it easy and read posts thoughtfully before before putting your foot in your mouth.
sorry, i don't understand blast principe (don't understand it), what was working for me was ramping it up from between 500-750/wk. meaning basically if I couldn't time my semi weekly stik because of travel, etc it became at times a little inconsistent...but 625 i'd say was the avg
Blast/Cruise meaning you Blast to 750/wk for a cycle (say 12 weeks) then you drop the dosage down back to TRT at say 100/wk for the "off period," then repeat...
Or are you just straight up running 750/wk nonstop?
rookie question... if I want to do more constant labs outside of my primary care physician, how/where do I do that?
cycle history: been on TRT for 2 years, and increased that to high dosage about 12 months ago. increasing to 500-750mg/wk over time. first stack was anavar w high dose test in Jan15 (cause it seemed so mild) when I began 6 days a week/2 hrs/day in the gym and began loading protein , but I didn't really feel any impacts above and beyond the test... did 7 week tren cycle 50mg ED ( I ramped over time once I was comfortable w sides) w 4 weeks dbol 50mg ED and Test C 150/wk. Had great cycle, great strength and definition gains and fat loss w little sides... been on high dose Test since...
Do you mean 500/750 constant or blast/cruise principle?
What is cycle history?
BF 18%, training 6 days a week, plus swim for cardio, mainly lean diet chick breast, protein shakes, egg whites,steak... been on ~ 2500-3k calories as i've been dropping body fat. my goal is to lean out more on next cycle which is why I was considering not taking dbol cause I definitely retained water weight while on it..
so re: orals, I knew it was to kickstart, I guess my question is is dbol the right kicker... also, I read everywhere that dbol and tren were uniquely stacked together for greater results...
RustyhookerAge: 42Height: 6'1"Weight: 225BF:18%
Whats your prior cycles? Bloodwork done? Test and estro levels etc?
Orals are primarily used as kickers at the beginning of cycles... You get the "oomph" while waiting for the long Esters to kick in... You should know this brother.
Now, what about the meat of every cycle, BF%, training, diet, etc.
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