posted Tue, 10/16/2012 - 19:11
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Tren A, Test E 2nd cycle
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This will be my second cycle, first cycle was tren A alone at 100mg eod, I already know it was a stupid cycle no planing and no pct. Luckily I had no bad sides. For my 2nd cycle I plan on running for 12 weeks Test E 400 at 100mg ed weeks 1-12 and Tren A at 100mg eod weeks either 4 or 6-12. My pct will be nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/50/50 starting 2 weeks after last injection. My diet is on point. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.
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Sounds like a Troll
And you sir sound like a douche, everyone has to start out somewhere and thats why I am here to learn what to and not to do. But thanks for your input.
dont worry your like the 100th member hillwood has called a troll, its his way of saying the cycle isnt smart.
zewiSMH--IMO THIS IS ALL CRAP AND IT SUCKS< LET ME TELL YOU HOW THIS CYCLE WILL GO IN 3 EASY WORDS!!
YOU WILL FAIL!!!!
cdaddy7VVV ATTENTION VVV this gentleman is ur truth teller!!!! Stop looking at the 500:500 ratio and start looking at all the side effects and those that are permanent if u do not use correctly....u are no where near the caliber for tren or any gear with 20% bf....u are predisposed for bp issues and gyno and that's just a few to start....u need a cutting diet....that diet u got going on there is why u are having trouble with ur bodyfat....not on point and not for u.....u need cardio in the mix....It's time to go back to the drawing board....I don't even advise the use of gear until bf is 14-15%....if u want to commit to something then commit to the proper diet/nutrition ,cardio, and training....the answer lies in u not a needle in ur ass....esp with such advanced compounds first off....stop listening to the guys in the gym that operate off of hearsay and get ur ass in here and research what u need and then seek sound advice from proven track records before u fin.d urself on a cluster fuck train ride to Hell
Just the way i see it CD... dont think for one minute this dude will listen to any advice given here,he will be just another to be thrown in the failure bin in a couple of years.. i know there are plenty of dummies around but "fuck me" this one takes the biscuit!... i am just about to write a post up about my last 10wks comp prep on the tren train i hope this dude reads it!
cdaddy7You know big poppy V It's really ashame that these guys are just taking unnecessary risks to quick land of nothing but nightmares bc they do not research nor do they listen and in about a few weeks the make an emergency post on how th are fucker up and now they want to listen....my thoughts is that once I give them my advice then what they do with it is their business bc i gave them my sound advice....my part is done....I sure hope he takes notice, ur I feel ur correct
Hey bro my first cycle was 400mg test e and 720mg tren for ten weeks "DUMB" and then during pct ran 100mcg of t3 "VERY FUCKN STUPID" and for my second cycle was planning on running a GRAM of test for 14 weeks but luckly i found eroids and the bros helped me out these ppl know what there talking about there the voice of exsperiance treat there advice like gold i hope everything works out for ya
Nice to hear brother... heres +3 to get you rollin again
Thanks bro much appreciated
Keep bringing that great attitude to the boards ..you will be flying soon
Just shown my appreciation i had already maid a big mistake waisted all that money just to hurt my health and come out with less muscule than i started with and was about to make another one and ppl took time out of there busy life to share there knowlage with me u caint put a price tag on that!!!!
x2 - Nice to see someone listen and gets some benefit out of it. Seems like an endless list of stupid cycles this week.....
At 20% bf you need diet and cardio. This cycle is ridiculous, you clearly don't know what you're doing with any if these compounds. You won't like what I've said, but at least it might get your attention.
READING TIME.
test E needs to be shot 2X a week not ED
NO TREN AGAIN MAN CMON,,,u never know this second time it will hit u harsh with sides,,,, stick to a test e and test p kicker and taper,,,
U didnt even post your ai's!!! Awful cycle imo...good luck
So hold off on the Tren, does this sound better run the Test e at 500mg a week 250mg Mon&Thur weeks 1-12 and Test P weeks 1-6 at 100mg eod and run aromasin 12.5 eod starting week 2
Yes bro thats more like it,,,
Test E weeks 1-12 500-600mg a week split dose mon/thur.
Test P (kicker) weeks 1-4 150mg EO
Test P(taper) weeks 10-14 100mg EOD
Start Pct 3 days after last test P shot!
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Ai- aromasin 12.5mg EOD start week 3.
BUT YOU SHOULD START THIS CYCLE AFTER YOUVE DIET HARD FOR AT LEAST 30-60 days!!!!!
Wake up and do 20-30 min of cardio!
Meal1: whey protein shake 2scoops/1 egg/1 ccup oats/1 cup plain non fat yogurt/2tbs cold milled flax seed 1 bananna.
Pre workout Meal2: 3 egg whites 1 whole egg 4-8oz chicken breast 1/2 cup of sweet potatos.
Post workout Meal 3: whey protein shake 2scoops 1tbs flax seed w/ garden salad!
Meal 4 : 4-8oz of ground turkey 1/2 cup brown rice
(Meals 1-4 are all before 2pm)
Meal 5: 6oz chicken breast with 1lb brocholli Meal 6: 4-6oz chicken breast with 1/2lb brocholli.
Meal 7: 8-10oz fish. "Tilapia" 1lb and 1/2lb brocholli.
Meal 8: casein shake 2 scoops 30min before bed to fire up the metabolism and feed muscles through the night.
WHEN you've dropped bf, this would be a much better cycle. You need diet and cardio before another cycle or you've got an increased chance of gyno and high blood pressure.
Your needing to lose bf badly. Mike below posted a real cycle. Skip the tren...spend the money on a lean diet.
Breakfast:
1 scoop whey protein
3 whole eggs
3 egg whites
2 cups oatmeal
Mid-Morning:
2 tbsp natural peanut butter
1 oz almonds
Lunch:
4 slices whole-wheat bread
6 oz deli roast beef
1 slice low-fat Swiss cheese
Dinner:
10 oz turkey breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup broccoli
Bed:
1 cup low-fat (1%) cottage cheese
1 tbsp natural peanut butter
Day 2
Breakfast:
1 scoop whey protein
1 cup oatmeal
3 whole eggs
3 egg whites
3 slices extra lean turkey bacon
2 whole-wheat English muffins
Lunch:
2 whole wheat Carb Balance tortillas
8 oz deli turkey
½ cup spinach
1 avocado
Pre-Workout:
1 scoop whey protein
Post-Workout:
1 scoop whey protein
Dinner:
9 oz salmon
1 cup brown rice
1 cup cauliflower
2 cups spinach
Bed:
1 oz walnuts or almonds
Day 3
Breakfast:
1 scoop whey protein
3 whole eggs
3 egg whites
2 cups oatmeal
Mid-Morning:
1 tbsp natural peanut butter
1 cup low-fat (1%) cottage cheese
Lunch:
1 can white albacore tuna in water
2 slices whole-grain bread
2 cups spinach
Pre workout:
1 scoop whey
Mid-Afternoon:
1 scoop casein protein
1 oz almonds
Dinner:
8 oz lean meat
1 cup brown rice
1 cup spinach
Pre-Bed:
1 scoop protein
1 oz almonds
Day 4
Breakfast:
1 scoop whey protein
12 oz orange juice
3 whole eggs
3 egg whites
3 slices extra lean turkey bacon
2 cups oatmeal
Mid-Morning:
2 sticks light string cheese
1 oz almonds
Lunch:
6 oz chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
Pre-Workout:
1 scoop whey protein
1 cup oatmeal
Post-Workout:
1 scoop whey protein
1 Gatorade (20 oz)
Dinner:
8 oz lean beef
1 cup brown rice
1 cup black beans
1 cup broccoli
2 cups spinach
Pre-Bed:
1 cup low-fat (1%) cottage cheese or yogurt
1 tbsp peanut butter
ECT........ Although my first cycle was sloppy I did keep to a strict diet, first cycle Tren A for 8 weeks gained 20 lbs kept 12.
i don't understand how this is your diet and your at 20% bf.
Your pct is wrong and your stats say your 20% body fat. that tells me right there your diet is not on point. Gear is not what you need. you should work on your diet and training and loose some more body fat before you think about running a cycle.
I want to bulk, 25 275lbs 20% BF 3 years training.
No stats, or goals, clomid would be 100/100/50/50...drop Tren add test p Tren=ten Cycles or more. If I were you I would run
1-4 test p 100 or 150 mg eod
1-12 test e 500mg weekly pinning every mon/thurs
13-15 prop 100mg eod (optional)
Pct begins 3 days after last injection
Nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/100
And diets on point what does it look like if could lay out real quick?
My suggestion...dont take tren so many other compound that will get YOUsame results...tren is for ppl who have exhausted all options and cant get same results without crazy amounts of mgs...u want to bulk or cut what are your cycle goals? Stats are needed for worth while help...