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Well, my winter bulk was a failure. (Test/Dbol) I didn't gain an lb. I got flu like symptoms after about every pin.
Bad test? Apotec has a good reputation. I recently gave a left over bottle to a friend on TRT. He said it was fine. Was it a persistent flu? No. It correlated to pinning.
I made most my gym days. I love the gym. I made less than half my pins. My diet was fair. I gained zip. I tend to keep at a weight. I wonder if homeostasis was resisting new gains.
Now I'm researching for another go. Deca/Test.
Any ideas on the cause?

J.Mc.'s picture

You made less than half your pins? Maybe that's why you didn't gain anything

mwagner630's picture

test flu, there is a few posts around here about it. its a reaction to the test, its generally a reaction to the carrier oil or you are unable to tolerate that test altogether. if you get persistent test flu you should drop it and try another brand. ive never experienced this but its not all that uncommon.

dogface's picture

Last January was #2. Number one was Test/EQ. I had strong gains and kept most of them. #2 was a new supplier.

GRIMEY's picture

Very odd you gained nothing, especially with dbol. Try another source on your next run, or better yet get bloodwork done a few weeks in so you can at least confirm the legitimacy of your test.

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j223's picture

apotek uses cso as a carrier if I can remember right so it's very unlikely that's the cause.

Is this your first cycle? Maybe you need to learn how to perform sterile injection procedure.

dogface's picture

I wonder If the cotton seed oil is it. The thought occurred to me many times. Sterile injections are a reasonable suspicion but my technique is researched and strict.

j223's picture

Most likely just poor injection procedure. CSO is extremely well tolerated

dak979's picture

How come u didnt change the Test as soon as u got the symptoms? Im assuming it was a long ester Test so u had plenty of time to use another brand! Didnt have to stick it out..

If you gain fine off cycle then you should be good to go on cycle. Switch the test brand. No need to add Deca IMO.

dogface's picture

A smart person would have stopped. My method is to bash my head against a problem until something breaks. I kept thinking the next pin would be different.

TeaBody's picture

Possibly allergic to the carrier oil used, I would find out what type of carrier it was and never use it again..

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