The Perfect First Cycle
This cycle I found on another forumn, looks very different in terms of pct and gives a reason why, please link or post the most perfect first cycle you can think of in terms of safety and effectiveness along with the best recovery please. I am interisted in looking like Calum Von Moger and I want to get as much info as possible for first time cycles. I don't really expect to look like him! lmfao, but a man can dream. 5'10" 34yr. 15%bf. Plenty of training exp. Have to take care of a shoulder impingement first, but I love doing research on this stuff. Lets blast this post enough that it can be educational for many others please.
Weeks 1-12
250mg Testosterone Enanthate per week
*Split into two injections (eg 125mg Monday and 125mg Thursday)
Week 13 - Taper Week 1
100mg Testosterone Enanthate per week
*Split into two injections (eg 50mg Monday and 50mg Thursday)
Week 14 - Taper Week 2
50mg Testosterone Enanthate per week
*Split into two injections (eg 25mg Monday and 25mg Thursday)
Weeks 1-16
0.25mg Anastrozole1
*Taken every other day (EOD)
Weeks 1-16
5g Taurine2
*Taken every day, split between morning and evening
OFF
1The reason for using the anastrozole is to lower oestrogen levels closer to physiological norms. As already discussed excessively high oestrogen levels can lead to various common side-effects that may not actually happen. But what we're using it for here is to reduce the free-radical (oxidative) damage caused by excessive aromatase activity and oestrogen on the HPTA and testes. By preventing this serious harm from happening in the first place, this should diminish the testicular atrophy caused by AAS and ensure a more easy recovery post-cycle all without the need for SERMs. We extend the use to Week 16 to prevent any rebound in oestrogen levels (as a result of its longer half-life), thus permitting GnRH and LH/FSH levels to return to normal and 'switch on' the testes.
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RustyhookerLooks like a cycle i wouldnt ever advise. The adex alone will leave you feeling like shit.
Lower dosed cycles will add size if gym is hardcore and foods ate spot on. My first cycle was 300mg a week. I kept 15 solid.
Taper with long esters...no. magnifying glass up top...groups....first cycles explained. Come back with corrections to your post
LOOKS BY THE REPLIES THAT YOU WANT SPOONFED. IM DONE HERE....
First, as with anyone looking to jump on the bicycle I would ask what your goals are and how experienced are you with consistent bodybuilding dieting? Second, A first cycle should always be " A keep it simple stupid straight test cycle ". I like your incorporation of Test E as I find that it is ideal for a first run. Although I agree with Greg 100% that the taper would accomplish nil. I do like the incorporation of a.i.'s and a pct program. However, a first go, forget the HCG all together as this works best for a more advanced users using more heavily suppressive chemicals.
wk 1 - 12 Test E 400 mg divided by 2 shot per week
wk 3 - 12 exemestane 12.5 mg twice per week
wk 13 exemestane 12.5 mg every other day. M,W,F,Sun
wk 14 - 17 nolva 20 every day and clomid 50 50 25 25
And as always listen to your body and adjust accordingly.
Thanks for your input, yea that cycle I posted on top I found somewhere else, not what I would have had in mind but I wanted to hear opinions on why it wasn't good just like you explained in your comments. Thanks for the cycle example as well.
wk 1-10 Test E 500/2 250mg shots per wk Sunday Morn/Wed night
wk 1-12 arimidex .5mg every other day
wk 4-12 HCG 250/2 x's wk/same days as test e ^
wk 12-16 Nolva 40/40/20/20
No clomid because of the addition of HCG? I'm not sure why some don't include one or the other classic pcts, I would imagine sides.
This cycle I found doesn't use any hcg, has an AI I guess some prefer arimidex and some aromasin not sure why yet. This cycle was all jacked up but I fixed it as much as I could without adding anything or taking anything out.
wk 1-8 Test Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Decanoate/Undecanoate
wk 1-10Arimidex .25 mg's every other day
wk 11-14 Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 50/50/25/25
I would argue that the taper is unnecessary and only prolongs your suppression with little upside benefit.
Thanks that makes sense. Old school technique I think? The guy was arguing for long term success of test levels after aas. Haven't heard much talk of this.
Found this cycle propasal for first time, seems to be pretty good as far as I know, 5000 blast of HCG does seem concerning?
Bloods should be done pre, mid and post cycle to check levels.
-Free T needs to be high
-Estrodial levels between 10-25 pg/ml
wk 1-12 500mg Test E/ split 2 shots per week
wk 8-12 HCG 500 iu
wk 3-12 Aromasin 6.25 2x's a day
wk 15-16 Aromasin 6.25 2x's a day
wk 14 5000 iu blast HCG
wk 15-16 Nolva 40 mg Clomid 100mg
wk 17-18 Nolva 20mg Clomid 50mg
This one is better than the one above.
Don't blast hcg it'll lead to desensitization of the testicles.
If hcg mimics lh the testicles become desensitized to it then when your body produces its own LH your testicles won't respond to it as well either does that make sense ?
People been doing it for years yes but just because they are doing it doesn't mean it's a good idea...
I'd run it starting about two or three weeks in all the way up until the test is out your system.
The rest looks good but I've never ran aromasin as an ai... so no advice to give on that.
I could use some insight if you're still on https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/need-pct-qui...
Thanks for the info, that does make sense, desensitization could happen I didn't think of that! So have you run arimidex then? Or what do you run instead?